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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is I live in > the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills.  We do > have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, just > grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so there is even > more distance between us and the major brush areas.   > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK now for the > news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than 7-10 miles > from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our soon to > be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch community. > If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of that > community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to evacuate, > but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above their > home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear area has > been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and Arrowhead > in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now at her > daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs got out. > Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of roads > from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you > know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 saved,

Yeah, um, sorry for the fire… -GoddessXena Simi Valley resident — If I Ever Need Religion I’ll Worship Chocolate Cake — "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." – Theodore Roosevelt — http://www.landoverbaptist.org/subjectarchive/halloween.html http://home.earthlink.net/~goddessxena/index.htm

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I Fraigun: >As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.   … >With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you >know if other news develops in this area.

Thinking of you and yours, Ian. And hoping the best for everyone in the area and all of the firefighters. —– Maddie, 7 months f3as3

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Glad you are ok Ian, and all the others from AS3 that are there in Ca. Our niece had to evacuate for a while, she lives in San Diego.. Got a call from our daughter in Colorado, and there is a fire there now, only  5 miles from their house. We pray for all of you. Paul D

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is I live in > the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills.  We do > have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, just > grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so there is even > more distance between us and the major brush areas. > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK now for the > news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than 7-10 miles > from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our soon to > be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch community. > If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of that > community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to evacuate, > but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above their > home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear area has > been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and Arrowhead > in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now at her > daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs got out. > Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of roads > from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you > know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 saved,

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> I heard that some of the water bombers that got such a good work-out last > month in the fires in the interior of British Columbia have gone down to > help with the California fires.  Hope they do. > Dawn

I saw one of them flying over our house (interior of BC, outside Kelowna) a few days ago and wondered if it was flying south.  I guess it was.  The fire situaion here, btw, has turned to a flood situation.  Such rain.  Why doesn’t it rain when you need it?! willene (bet you thought I’d deserted as3!  More later)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Earthquakes > don’t really bother me much.  Lived through every big one since 1952 and >they > don’t scare you that much.  By the time you realize what is happening its > almost over so why worry.  Now hurricaines I would be scared of since you >know > they are coming days and even weeks in advance.  Every place has its >natural > disasters so you choose you troubles and make the best of them. >Funny, I’m more afraid of earthquakes because you have no advance notice. >With hurricanes, you have time to prepare and evacuate if necessary. >Anne D. – in Florida, where we get threatened a few times each year. >One week, two days, 0 minutes and 48 seconds. 180 cigarettes not smoked, >saving $30.60. Life saved: 15 hours, 0 minutes.

Well we are always prepared for a earthquake.  Always have canned foods and foods that can be eaten without cooking.  Even if we have to cook we can always fire up a charcoal based BBQ.  Got our first aid kit and 5 gallon water bottle for drinking always on hand.  For long lack of water the water in the toilet tanks and the water heater is also usable for human consumption.  House was built in 1977 under the most stringent construction rules.  We know buildings here are built to stand up even under an 8.0 magnitude and the methods have been refined after every quake since Long Beach in 1932.  We are sure we can always get out even if the structure must be torn down later so it just is not that big a thing.  Now if you live elsewhere and there is a quake it could be a major problem.   Same with fire you do what you can to prevent.  We keep green ground cover around the edges of our property and water that even during drought conditions.  Even in a drought we get special allowance to continue watering because we are in a hillside area.  We also keep the trees trimmed to not touch the house and have the most fire retardant asphalt shingle roof available.  Just keep as prepared as possible for all things possible and normally you will survive even if you lose the structure, but then thats what insurance is for. Ian — 8y 8m 3w 5d 11:32 smoke-free, 108,469 cigs not smoked, $13,385.07 saved,

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> Earthquakes > don’t really bother me much.  Lived through every big one since 1952 and they > don’t scare you that much.  By the time you realize what is happening its > almost over so why worry.  Now hurricaines I would be scared of since you know > they are coming days and even weeks in advance.  Every place has its natural > disasters so you choose you troubles and make the best of them.

Funny, I’m more afraid of earthquakes because you have no advance notice. With hurricanes, you have time to prepare and evacuate if necessary. Anne D. – in Florida, where we get threatened a few times each year. One week, two days, 0 minutes and 48 seconds. 180 cigarettes not smoked, saving $30.60. Life saved: 15 hours, 0 minutes.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.   >Scary stuff Ian.  Best wishes and all that.  I guess telling you "no >smoking" wouldn’t be very funny at the moment, would it? >Lemming >– >Curiosity *may* have killed Schrodinger’s cat. >http://goldcrossdata.co.uk/                      ICQ: 8647501 >Leming,

   Nope that would not be that funny right now.  At this point I would pull from their car and strangle anyone tossing a lit butt from a car window. Ian OOF — 8y 8m 3w 5d 2:07 smoke-free, 108,464 cigs not smoked, $13,384.46 saved,

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>I heard that some of the water bombers that got such a good work-out last >month in the fires in the interior of British Columbia have gone down to >help with the California fires.  Hope they do. >Dawn

Dawn,   Yep we have used the super scooper plaines.  Also the water dropping helicopters.  Gotta love those chopper pilots.  They were doing rooftop height drops today really saving homes and putting themselves in harms way to save those homes.  Many thanks from us to all the firefighters from all over North America who are here helping out. Ian OOF — 8y 8m 3w 5d 2:10 smoke-free, 108,464 cigs not smoked, $13,384.46 saved,

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is I >live in > the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills.  We do > have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, just > grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so there is >even > more distance between us and the major brush areas. > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK now for >the > news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than 7-10 >miles > from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our soon >to > be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch >community. > If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of that > community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to >evacuate, > but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above >their > home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear area has > been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and >Arrowhead > in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now at her > daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs got >out. > Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of >roads > from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call >the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let >you > know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 saved, >Oh, Ian, I have been so worried about you and others in that area! >Everyday I read of more and more homes destroyed by fire and just can’t >imagine living there under that threat.  I know you guys love your state >and your home, but it seems these disasters hit at least once a year. >Don’t you ever feel like moving to someplace that isn’t plagued by fire >and earthquakes?  All we have here are tornadoes, but I’ve never lived >anywhere that didn’t have tornadoes, and at least a basement will keep >you fairly safe during one of those. >I hope the rest of your family and friends escape harm and their homes >aren’t damaged. >*hugs* >– >   BinnieBee – A Proud Old Fogie! >        %% >      (—-) >     ( >__< ) >     ^^ ~~ ^^ >     ~f3as3~ >Quit since 11/01/2001 >http://binniebee.com >http://cyberdigs.com

Binnie,    Since our area is so built up we are fairly safe from fire.  At least more so than my youngest son and especially more so than my sister.  Earthquakes don’t really bother me much.  Lived through every big one since 1952 and they don’t scare you that much.  By the time you realize what is happening its almost over so why worry.  Now hurricaines I would be scared of since you know they are coming days and even weeks in advance.  Every place has its natural disasters so you choose you troubles and make the best of them. Ian OOF — 8y 8m 3w 5d 2:13 smoke-free, 108,464 cigs not smoked, $13,384.46 saved,

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Rosie,    Well sometimes when you think things can’t get worse the do.  Though no damage there was a 3.7 magnitude earthquake in Simi Valley at just before 4pm today.  Thats one thing we don’t need with these fires going on.   Futher update.  Forcast is for some drizzle tomorrow morning and sprinkles Friday.  Winds have picked up so there are still major problems but the rains if they come will really help.  This is the costliest disaster in California history and most of it man made.  Sure hope they get all the creeps who started these fires.   Now 20 dead and over 2100 homes destroyed and well over 600000 acres burned. Only real trouble left for family is my sister and the fires are being blown toward her area tonite though she was evacuated yesterday.  We can only hope she has a home to go back to next week.    Thats all for now from (with added quake today) shake and bake land.   Ian OOF — 8y 8m 3w 5d 2:06 smoke-free, 108,464 cigs not smoked, $13,384.46 saved, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >(((((((((((((((((((((((IAN))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0 >i cannot imagine how all of you must feel! >that entire state is in my daily prayers! >– >read and post daily, it works! >rosie >the more often I laugh today, the lighter my spirit will feel and. the >healthier my emotional life will become. > As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is >I live in > the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills. >We do > have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, >just > grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so >there is even > more distance between us and the major brush areas. > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK >now for the > news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than >7-10 miles > from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our >soon to > be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch >community. > If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of >that > community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to >evacuate, > but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles >above their > home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear >area has > been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and >Arrowhead > in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now >at her > daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs >got out. > Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack >of roads > from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to >call the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will >let you > know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 >saved,

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I heard that some of the water bombers that got such a good work-out last month in the fires in the interior of British Columbia have gone down to help with the California fires.  Hope they do. Dawn

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>Ian >OOF >— >8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 saved,

Keep us posted Ian. Thanks for stopping in. Craig Praying for you and the safety of the firefighters.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is I live in > the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills.  We do > have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, just > grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so there is even > more distance between us and the major brush areas. > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK now for the > news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than 7-10 miles > from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our soon to > be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch community. > If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of that > community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to evacuate, > but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above their > home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear area has > been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and Arrowhead > in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now at her > daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs got out. > Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of roads > from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you > know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 saved,

Oh, Ian, I have been so worried about you and others in that area! Everyday I read of more and more homes destroyed by fire and just can’t imagine living there under that threat.  I know you guys love your state and your home, but it seems these disasters hit at least once a year. Don’t you ever feel like moving to someplace that isn’t plagued by fire and earthquakes?  All we have here are tornadoes, but I’ve never lived anywhere that didn’t have tornadoes, and at least a basement will keep you fairly safe during one of those. I hope the rest of your family and friends escape harm and their homes aren’t damaged. *hugs* —    BinnieBee – A Proud Old Fogie!         %%       (—-)      ( >__< )      ^^ ~~ ^^      ~f3as3~ Quit since 11/01/2001 http://binniebee.com http://cyberdigs.com

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There is nothing natural about about putting lots of homes in ecological communities that burn every few years.  The plants that are burning will benefit from it – they’ll resprout healthier than before.  Deer, birds, and other wildlife will thrive in the burned areas.   Too bad we can’t design houses and people to resprout after they’re burned.  Arsonists set off most of these fires, but our chosen lifestyles turned it into a tragedy, not nature. Diane M.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> There was I thinking this was a natural disaster. 10 seperate major > fires. Real nasty stuff. > bobf > 3y

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{{{Ian}}} All my best to you and to your family. Hoping they remain safe. Julie B.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is > I live in the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower > foothills.  We do have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees > or thick brush, just grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes > above that area so there is even more distance between us and the > major brush areas. > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK > now for the news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten > closer than 7-10 miles from my home so no issue there.  My youngest > son and his wife and our soon to be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago > into a house in the Porter Ranch community. If you heard the news > from here the fire came right to the edge of that community. > Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to evacuate, but > could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above > their home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear > area has been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big > Bear and Arrowhead in the San Bernardino mountains are both > threatened now.  She is now at her daughters home about 5 miles from > me and at least they and their dogs got out. Hopefully they will be > OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of roads from the area > that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will > let you know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 > saved,

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is I live in >the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills.  We do >have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, just >grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so there is even >more distance between us and the major brush areas.   >None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK now for the >news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than 7-10 miles >from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our soon to >be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch community. >If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of that >community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to evacuate, >but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above their >home. >Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear area has >been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and Arrowhead >in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now at her >daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs got out. >Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of roads >from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call the >evacuation. >With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you >know if other news develops in this area.

There was I thinking this was a natural disaster. 10 seperate major fires. Real nasty stuff. bobf 3y

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> Praying for rain and safety for all > (helpfully) > Julia

Same here…..we have friends down that way that are very close to losing everything they own.  Praying for anyone within that fires reach…. Sally – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know > is I live in > the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills. > We do > have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, > just > grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so > there is even > more distance between us and the major brush areas. > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK > now for the > news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than > 7-10 miles > from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and > our soon to > be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch > community. > If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of > that > community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to > evacuate, > but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles > above their > home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear > area has > been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and > Arrowhead > in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now > at her > daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their > dogs got out. > Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack > of roads > from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited > to call the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will > let you > know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 > saved, > — > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is I live in the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills.  We do have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, just grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so there is even more distance between us and the major brush areas.   None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK now for the news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than 7-10 miles from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our soon to be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch community. If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of that community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to evacuate, but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above their home. Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear area has been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and Arrowhead in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now at her daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs got out. Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of roads from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call the evacuation. With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you know if other news develops in this area. Ian OOF — 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 saved,

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>With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you >know if other news develops in this area.

It’s a worrying time Ian, even with your superb firefighters. Good luck! steveb

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fingers crossed…good wishes coming your way… — Lane, VOF & stuff… http://www.bluethunder.org/quitterhome.html Starbucks Ends Dispute www.haidabuckscafe.com And WE WON!!!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is I live in > the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills.  We do > have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, just > grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so there is even > more distance between us and the major brush areas. > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK now for the > news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than 7-10 miles > from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our soon to > be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch community. > If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of that > community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to evacuate, > but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above their > home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear area has > been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and Arrowhead > in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now at her > daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs got out. > Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of roads > from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you > know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 saved,

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(((((((((((((((((((((((IAN))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0 i cannot imagine how all of you must feel! that entire state is in my daily prayers! — read and post daily, it works! rosie the more often I laugh today, the lighter my spirit will feel and. the healthier my emotional life will become.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is I live in > the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills. We do > have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, just > grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so there is even > more distance between us and the major brush areas. > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK now for the > news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than 7-10 miles > from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our soon to > be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch community. > If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of that > community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to evacuate, > but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above their > home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear area has > been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and Arrowhead > in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now at her > daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs got out. > Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of roads > from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you > know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 saved,

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So good to hear you and yours are okay, Ian.  What a God-awful fire that is. The news reports are absolutely terrifying.  I will keep you and your family in my prayers. *   *      Goldie                *                   *

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>As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  

Scary stuff Ian.  Best wishes and all that.  I guess telling you "no smoking" wouldn’t be very funny at the moment, would it? Lemming — Curiosity *may* have killed Schrodinger’s cat. http://goldcrossdata.co.uk/                      ICQ: 8647501

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Thanks for checking in Ian – I emailed friends in San Diego last night after seeing some of the devastation on television…it’s a very scary thing. I was glad to hear that they were ok, though the parents had to move out of the San Diego area near the fires due to the air quality.  I hope they get it all under control soon -and whoever the idiots were who were setting the fires deliberately…well I hope they get their just reward! Take care over there! Paula

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is I live in > the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills.  We do > have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, just > grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so there is even > more distance between us and the major brush areas. > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK now for the > news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than 7-10 miles > from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our soon to > be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch community. > If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of that > community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to evacuate, > but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above their > home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear area has > been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and Arrowhead > in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now at her > daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs got out. > Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of roads > from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you > know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 saved,

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Praying for rain and safety for all (helpfully) Julia

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is I live in > the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills. We do > have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, just > grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so there is even > more distance between us and the major brush areas. > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK now for the > news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than 7-10 miles > from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our soon to > be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch community. > If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of that > community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to evacuate, > but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above their > home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear area has > been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and Arrowhead > in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now at her > daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs got out. > Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of roads > from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you > know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 saved,

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As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is I live in the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills.  We do have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, just grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so there is even more distance between us and the major brush areas.   None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK now for the news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than 7-10 miles from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our soon to be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch community. If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of that community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to evacuate, but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above their home. Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear area has been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and Arrowhead in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now at her daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs got out. Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of roads from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call the evacuation. With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you know if other news develops in this area. Ian OOF — 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 saved,

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>With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you >know if other news develops in this area.

It’s a worrying time Ian, even with your superb firefighters. Good luck! steveb

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fingers crossed…good wishes coming your way… — Lane, VOF & stuff… http://www.bluethunder.org/quitterhome.html Starbucks Ends Dispute www.haidabuckscafe.com And WE WON!!!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is I live in > the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills.  We do > have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, just > grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so there is even > more distance between us and the major brush areas. > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK now for the > news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than 7-10 miles > from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our soon to > be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch community. > If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of that > community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to evacuate, > but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above their > home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear area has > been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and Arrowhead > in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now at her > daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs got out. > Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of roads > from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you > know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 saved,

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(((((((((((((((((((((((IAN))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0 i cannot imagine how all of you must feel! that entire state is in my daily prayers! — read and post daily, it works! rosie the more often I laugh today, the lighter my spirit will feel and. the healthier my emotional life will become.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is I live in > the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills. We do > have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, just > grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so there is even > more distance between us and the major brush areas. > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK now for the > news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than 7-10 miles > from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our soon to > be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch community. > If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of that > community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to evacuate, > but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above their > home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear area has > been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and Arrowhead > in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now at her > daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs got out. > Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of roads > from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you > know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 saved,

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So good to hear you and yours are okay, Ian.  What a God-awful fire that is. The news reports are absolutely terrifying.  I will keep you and your family in my prayers. *   *      Goldie                *                   *

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>As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  

Scary stuff Ian.  Best wishes and all that.  I guess telling you "no smoking" wouldn’t be very funny at the moment, would it? Lemming — Curiosity *may* have killed Schrodinger’s cat. http://goldcrossdata.co.uk/                      ICQ: 8647501

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Thanks for checking in Ian – I emailed friends in San Diego last night after seeing some of the devastation on television…it’s a very scary thing. I was glad to hear that they were ok, though the parents had to move out of the San Diego area near the fires due to the air quality.  I hope they get it all under control soon -and whoever the idiots were who were setting the fires deliberately…well I hope they get their just reward! Take care over there! Paula

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is I live in > the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills.  We do > have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, just > grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so there is even > more distance between us and the major brush areas. > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK now for the > news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than 7-10 miles > from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our soon to > be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch community. > If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of that > community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to evacuate, > but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above their > home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear area has > been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and Arrowhead > in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now at her > daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs got out. > Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of roads > from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you > know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 saved,

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Praying for rain and safety for all (helpfully) Julia

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is I live in > the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills. We do > have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, just > grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so there is even > more distance between us and the major brush areas. > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK now for the > news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than 7-10 miles > from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our soon to > be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch community. > If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of that > community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to evacuate, > but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above their > home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear area has > been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and Arrowhead > in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now at her > daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs got out. > Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of roads > from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you > know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 saved,

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> Praying for rain and safety for all > (helpfully) > Julia

Same here…..we have friends down that way that are very close to losing everything they own.  Praying for anyone within that fires reach…. Sally – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know > is I live in > the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills. > We do > have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, > just > grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so > there is even > more distance between us and the major brush areas. > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK > now for the > news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than > 7-10 miles > from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and > our soon to > be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch > community. > If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of > that > community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to > evacuate, > but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles > above their > home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear > area has > been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and > Arrowhead > in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now > at her > daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their > dogs got out. > Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack > of roads > from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited > to call the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will > let you > know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 > saved, > — > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is I live in >the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills.  We do >have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, just >grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so there is even >more distance between us and the major brush areas.   >None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK now for the >news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than 7-10 miles >from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our soon to >be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch community. >If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of that >community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to evacuate, >but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above their >home. >Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear area has >been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and Arrowhead >in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now at her >daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs got out. >Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of roads >from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call the >evacuation. >With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you >know if other news develops in this area.

There was I thinking this was a natural disaster. 10 seperate major fires. Real nasty stuff. bobf 3y

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{{{Ian}}} All my best to you and to your family. Hoping they remain safe. Julie B.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is > I live in the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower > foothills.  We do have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees > or thick brush, just grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes > above that area so there is even more distance between us and the > major brush areas. > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK > now for the news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten > closer than 7-10 miles from my home so no issue there.  My youngest > son and his wife and our soon to be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago > into a house in the Porter Ranch community. If you heard the news > from here the fire came right to the edge of that community. > Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to evacuate, but > could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above > their home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear > area has been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big > Bear and Arrowhead in the San Bernardino mountains are both > threatened now.  She is now at her daughters home about 5 miles from > me and at least they and their dogs got out. Hopefully they will be > OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of roads from the area > that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will > let you know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 > saved,

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I heard that some of the water bombers that got such a good work-out last month in the fires in the interior of British Columbia have gone down to help with the California fires.  Hope they do. Dawn

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>Ian >OOF >— >8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 saved,

Keep us posted Ian. Thanks for stopping in. Craig Praying for you and the safety of the firefighters.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is I live in > the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills.  We do > have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, just > grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so there is even > more distance between us and the major brush areas. > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK now for the > news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than 7-10 miles > from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our soon to > be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch community. > If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of that > community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to evacuate, > but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above their > home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear area has > been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and Arrowhead > in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now at her > daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs got out. > Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of roads > from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you > know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 saved,

Oh, Ian, I have been so worried about you and others in that area! Everyday I read of more and more homes destroyed by fire and just can’t imagine living there under that threat.  I know you guys love your state and your home, but it seems these disasters hit at least once a year. Don’t you ever feel like moving to someplace that isn’t plagued by fire and earthquakes?  All we have here are tornadoes, but I’ve never lived anywhere that didn’t have tornadoes, and at least a basement will keep you fairly safe during one of those. I hope the rest of your family and friends escape harm and their homes aren’t damaged. *hugs* —    BinnieBee – A Proud Old Fogie!         %%       (—-)      ( >__< )      ^^ ~~ ^^      ~f3as3~ Quit since 11/01/2001 http://binniebee.com http://cyberdigs.com

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There is nothing natural about about putting lots of homes in ecological communities that burn every few years.  The plants that are burning will benefit from it – they’ll resprout healthier than before.  Deer, birds, and other wildlife will thrive in the burned areas.   Too bad we can’t design houses and people to resprout after they’re burned.  Arsonists set off most of these fires, but our chosen lifestyles turned it into a tragedy, not nature. Diane M.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> There was I thinking this was a natural disaster. 10 seperate major > fires. Real nasty stuff. > bobf > 3y

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Rosie,    Well sometimes when you think things can’t get worse the do.  Though no damage there was a 3.7 magnitude earthquake in Simi Valley at just before 4pm today.  Thats one thing we don’t need with these fires going on.   Futher update.  Forcast is for some drizzle tomorrow morning and sprinkles Friday.  Winds have picked up so there are still major problems but the rains if they come will really help.  This is the costliest disaster in California history and most of it man made.  Sure hope they get all the creeps who started these fires.   Now 20 dead and over 2100 homes destroyed and well over 600000 acres burned. Only real trouble left for family is my sister and the fires are being blown toward her area tonite though she was evacuated yesterday.  We can only hope she has a home to go back to next week.    Thats all for now from (with added quake today) shake and bake land.   Ian OOF — 8y 8m 3w 5d 2:06 smoke-free, 108,464 cigs not smoked, $13,384.46 saved, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >(((((((((((((((((((((((IAN))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0 >i cannot imagine how all of you must feel! >that entire state is in my daily prayers! >– >read and post daily, it works! >rosie >the more often I laugh today, the lighter my spirit will feel and. the >healthier my emotional life will become. > As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is >I live in > the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills. >We do > have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, >just > grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so >there is even > more distance between us and the major brush areas. > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK >now for the > news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than >7-10 miles > from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our >soon to > be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch >community. > If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of >that > community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to >evacuate, > but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles >above their > home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear >area has > been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and >Arrowhead > in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now >at her > daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs >got out. > Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack >of roads > from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to >call the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will >let you > know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 >saved,

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.   >Scary stuff Ian.  Best wishes and all that.  I guess telling you "no >smoking" wouldn’t be very funny at the moment, would it? >Lemming >– >Curiosity *may* have killed Schrodinger’s cat. >http://goldcrossdata.co.uk/                      ICQ: 8647501 >Leming,

   Nope that would not be that funny right now.  At this point I would pull from their car and strangle anyone tossing a lit butt from a car window. Ian OOF — 8y 8m 3w 5d 2:07 smoke-free, 108,464 cigs not smoked, $13,384.46 saved,

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>I heard that some of the water bombers that got such a good work-out last >month in the fires in the interior of British Columbia have gone down to >help with the California fires.  Hope they do. >Dawn

Dawn,   Yep we have used the super scooper plaines.  Also the water dropping helicopters.  Gotta love those chopper pilots.  They were doing rooftop height drops today really saving homes and putting themselves in harms way to save those homes.  Many thanks from us to all the firefighters from all over North America who are here helping out. Ian OOF — 8y 8m 3w 5d 2:10 smoke-free, 108,464 cigs not smoked, $13,384.46 saved,

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is I >live in > the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills.  We do > have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, just > grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so there is >even > more distance between us and the major brush areas. > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK now for >the > news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than 7-10 >miles > from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our soon >to > be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch >community. > If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of that > community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to >evacuate, > but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above >their > home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear area has > been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and >Arrowhead > in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now at her > daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs got >out. > Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of >roads > from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call >the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let >you > know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 saved, >Oh, Ian, I have been so worried about you and others in that area! >Everyday I read of more and more homes destroyed by fire and just can’t >imagine living there under that threat.  I know you guys love your state >and your home, but it seems these disasters hit at least once a year. >Don’t you ever feel like moving to someplace that isn’t plagued by fire >and earthquakes?  All we have here are tornadoes, but I’ve never lived >anywhere that didn’t have tornadoes, and at least a basement will keep >you fairly safe during one of those. >I hope the rest of your family and friends escape harm and their homes >aren’t damaged. >*hugs* >– >   BinnieBee – A Proud Old Fogie! >        %% >      (—-) >     ( >__< ) >     ^^ ~~ ^^ >     ~f3as3~ >Quit since 11/01/2001 >http://binniebee.com >http://cyberdigs.com

Binnie,    Since our area is so built up we are fairly safe from fire.  At least more so than my youngest son and especially more so than my sister.  Earthquakes don’t really bother me much.  Lived through every big one since 1952 and they don’t scare you that much.  By the time you realize what is happening its almost over so why worry.  Now hurricaines I would be scared of since you know they are coming days and even weeks in advance.  Every place has its natural disasters so you choose you troubles and make the best of them. Ian OOF — 8y 8m 3w 5d 2:13 smoke-free, 108,464 cigs not smoked, $13,384.46 saved,

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> Earthquakes > don’t really bother me much.  Lived through every big one since 1952 and they > don’t scare you that much.  By the time you realize what is happening its > almost over so why worry.  Now hurricaines I would be scared of since you know > they are coming days and even weeks in advance.  Every place has its natural > disasters so you choose you troubles and make the best of them.

Funny, I’m more afraid of earthquakes because you have no advance notice. With hurricanes, you have time to prepare and evacuate if necessary. Anne D. – in Florida, where we get threatened a few times each year. One week, two days, 0 minutes and 48 seconds. 180 cigarettes not smoked, saving $30.60. Life saved: 15 hours, 0 minutes.

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> I heard that some of the water bombers that got such a good work-out last > month in the fires in the interior of British Columbia have gone down to > help with the California fires.  Hope they do. > Dawn

I saw one of them flying over our house (interior of BC, outside Kelowna) a few days ago and wondered if it was flying south.  I guess it was.  The fire situaion here, btw, has turned to a flood situation.  Such rain.  Why doesn’t it rain when you need it?! willene (bet you thought I’d deserted as3!  More later)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Earthquakes > don’t really bother me much.  Lived through every big one since 1952 and >they > don’t scare you that much.  By the time you realize what is happening its > almost over so why worry.  Now hurricaines I would be scared of since you >know > they are coming days and even weeks in advance.  Every place has its >natural > disasters so you choose you troubles and make the best of them. >Funny, I’m more afraid of earthquakes because you have no advance notice. >With hurricanes, you have time to prepare and evacuate if necessary. >Anne D. – in Florida, where we get threatened a few times each year. >One week, two days, 0 minutes and 48 seconds. 180 cigarettes not smoked, >saving $30.60. Life saved: 15 hours, 0 minutes.

Well we are always prepared for a earthquake.  Always have canned foods and foods that can be eaten without cooking.  Even if we have to cook we can always fire up a charcoal based BBQ.  Got our first aid kit and 5 gallon water bottle for drinking always on hand.  For long lack of water the water in the toilet tanks and the water heater is also usable for human consumption.  House was built in 1977 under the most stringent construction rules.  We know buildings here are built to stand up even under an 8.0 magnitude and the methods have been refined after every quake since Long Beach in 1932.  We are sure we can always get out even if the structure must be torn down later so it just is not that big a thing.  Now if you live elsewhere and there is a quake it could be a major problem.   Same with fire you do what you can to prevent.  We keep green ground cover around the edges of our property and water that even during drought conditions.  Even in a drought we get special allowance to continue watering because we are in a hillside area.  We also keep the trees trimmed to not touch the house and have the most fire retardant asphalt shingle roof available.  Just keep as prepared as possible for all things possible and normally you will survive even if you lose the structure, but then thats what insurance is for. Ian — 8y 8m 3w 5d 11:32 smoke-free, 108,469 cigs not smoked, $13,385.07 saved,

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I Fraigun: >As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.   … >With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you >know if other news develops in this area.

Thinking of you and yours, Ian. And hoping the best for everyone in the area and all of the firefighters. —– Maddie, 7 months f3as3

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Glad you are ok Ian, and all the others from AS3 that are there in Ca. Our niece had to evacuate for a while, she lives in San Diego.. Got a call from our daughter in Colorado, and there is a fire there now, only  5 miles from their house. We pray for all of you. Paul D

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is I live in > the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills.  We do > have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, just > grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so there is even > more distance between us and the major brush areas. > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK now for the > news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than 7-10 miles > from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our soon to > be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch community. > If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of that > community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to evacuate, > but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above their > home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear area has > been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and Arrowhead > in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now at her > daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs got out. > Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of roads > from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you > know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 saved,

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > As  many of you know I live in Los Angeles.  What you may not know is I live in > the north part of the San Fernando Valley up in the lower foothills.  We do > have brush areas about 3 houses away, but no trees or thick brush, just > grasses.  Fortunately they did build new homes above that area so there is even > more distance between us and the major brush areas.   > None of that matters of course if the winds are blowing embers.  OK now for the > news as it affects me.  First the fires have not gotten closer than 7-10 miles > from my home so no issue there.  My youngest son and his wife and our soon to > be grandson just moved 2 weeks ago into a house in the Porter Ranch community. > If you heard the news from here the fire came right to the edge of that > community.  Fortunately the winds shifted and they did not have to evacuate, > but could see all the flames cresting the hills about 1/2-3/4 miles above their > home. > Finally we just found out that my sister who lives in the big bear area has > been subject to a mandatory evactuation.  The towns of Big Bear and Arrowhead > in the San Bernardino mountains are both threatened now.  She is now at her > daughters home about 5 miles from me and at least they and their dogs got out. > Hopefully they will be OK since the evacuation was early due to lack of roads > from the area that could have been a disater itself had they waited to call the > evacuation. > With the winds settling down looks like all should be alright.  Will let you > know if other news develops in this area. > Ian > OOF > — > 8y 8m 3w 4d 11:58 smoke-free, 108,436 cigs not smoked, $13,381.00 saved,

Yeah, um, sorry for the fire… -GoddessXena Simi Valley resident — If I Ever Need Religion I’ll Worship Chocolate Cake — "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." – Theodore Roosevelt — http://www.landoverbaptist.org/subjectarchive/halloween.html http://home.earthlink.net/~goddessxena/index.htm

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