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This is how Neocons really talk about the blacks in back rooms while sipping wine and eating French cheese: Bill Bennett, who held prominent posts in the administrations of former presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush, told a caller to his syndicated radio talk show Wednesday: "If you wanted to reduce crime, you could — if that were your sole purpose — you could abort every black baby in this country and your crime rate would go down. "That would be an impossibly ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down," he said. Bennett served as Reagan’s chairman of the National Endowment for the Humanities from 1981-1985 and secretary of education from 1985-1988. >From 1989-1990, he served as "drug czar" in the administration of the
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> This is how Neocons really talk about > the blacks in back rooms while sipping wine and eating French cheese: > Bill Bennett, who held prominent posts in the administrations of former > presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush, told a caller to his > syndicated radio talk show Wednesday: "If you wanted to reduce crime, > you could — if that were your sole purpose — you could abort every > black baby in this country and your crime rate would go down.
WEll that’d take care of the small time crooks, now for big time crooks: we’ll have to start here http://www.clowncrack.com/cartoons/large/political/condombush.htm
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More racist garbage from the right, a review of an article by Charles Miller in yesterday’s Wall Street Journal: Penned by Charles Murray, he of The Bell Curve fame, it argues that what we’re seeing post-Katrina isn’t poverty but a once-again visible "underclass," a sort of shadow society of unsocialized black men with no appetite for work, no capacity to hold jobs, and no ability to be helped through conventional methods. They are, quite literally, savages, unable to function in the world the rest of us inhabit. They are, as he puts it, the "looters and the thugs," not to mention the "inert women doing nothing to help themselves or their children." . . . I’ve no idea where Murray got the idea that the New Orleans evacuees lacked jobs rather than cars and social skills rather than transportation — from deep within his own prejudices, I’d guess. And where he got the concept that these men and women are somehow incapable of holding jobs and unwilling to send their children to school — that’s all similarly obscure. The absence of autos affects the social and the unsocialized alike; the folks you see on buses are often en route to jobs they hold, contra Murray, perfectly well. But if his argument is flawed, its aim is clear. All those stories of urban anarchy were, to Murray, accurate, everyday manifestations of the Black people we’d hidden from sight. The normal explanation, that their assumed bad behavior was a reaction to extraordinary circumstance — that was the wrong part. This had nothing to do with Katrina; it was part and parcel of an inferior race, an incorrigible culture. What is more disgusting that this guy’s article is that the WSJ would stoop to publish such trash just to sell newspapers.
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> This is how Neocons really talk about > the blacks in back rooms while sipping wine and eating French cheese: > Bill Bennett, who held prominent posts in the administrations of former > presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush, told a caller to his > syndicated radio talk show Wednesday: "If you wanted to reduce crime, > you could — if that were your sole purpose — you could abort every > black baby in this country and your crime rate would go down.
IMO, this guy is a sanctimonious blowhard hypocrite, and this is simply the latest installment in the lengthy resume documenting his condition. As an aside, it wouldn’t surprise me if he were greeted several times a day, when he was here in DC with: "You got some gravy on your tie, Bill." This is the same guy who took a bunch of public domain stories, wrapped them up in a book, and donning the robes of the holy, called the work "The Book of Virtues". Tremendously successful. (And good for him to make a buck this way). All the while, this douche was addicted to…slot machine gambling… to the point where he had lost 5 or 10 million dollars…at *slots*! Losing money at poker or blackjack is one thing…but losing millions on *slots* proves he’s an absolute idiot. Old ladies play slots, fer cryin out loud. It’s a tax on the mathematically challenged. OTOH, there was no mention of slot gambling in his "Book of Virtues", so technically, he didn’t run afoul of that very important piece. Now, the book he apparently heard about, but did not read (or perhaps did not understand) from which his latest eruption came, is called "Freakonomics"…it’s a very quick read, and a fun book. Steven Levitt uses economic and statistical techniques to debunk or question ‘common knowledge’ and ’sacred cows of political correctness’. The section he cited, and he got it all wrong, was a study as to why certain crime rates dropped dramatically, rather than increased dramatically as the ‘experts’ warned, in the mid 1990s…among poor and black populations in urban areas with bad crime at the time. The essence of *one* compelling possibility cited in the book was that Roe v Wade was decided in 1973. Not giving anything away but the obvious, this made abortion for unwed mothers more available at all income levels. The availability of abortion on demand reduced the number of ‘unwanted’ children born…this affected the birthrate of out-of-wedlock children…etc. The surprise drop in crime mapped with nothing more closely than the time these children (read: boys) would have begun exerting themselves stupidly, as is common among adolescent boys. The availability of abortion on demand in 1973 and on reduced the number of (in this case) black boys who came to age *just after* crime rates spiked in many cities. Now, the theme of the book deals with questioning ‘accepted truths’ with data, statistics, facts and methods…performing this analysis from many angles in order to draw conclusions, debunk ‘common knowledge’, or at least present hypotheses with a sound basis, having worked the problem. It’s not a book about race, abortion, or crime, any more than it is about child safety seats, or gun laws. It’s about applying sound methodologies to problems….where often sound methodologies are not used, but rather, appeals to emotions or fear. So, Bill, who probably didn’t read the book, or didn’t understand what it was about, thinks a relevant point to bring up (after citing the fucking title…that had to make Levitt cringe)…is that if we abort all black babies, our crime rate would go down. That, my friends, is one stupid motherfucking asshole.
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>This is how Neocons really talk about >the blacks in back rooms while sipping wine and eating French cheese: >Bill Bennett, who held prominent posts in the administrations of former >presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush, told a caller to his >syndicated radio talk show Wednesday: "If you wanted to reduce crime, >you could — if that were your sole purpose — you could abort every >black baby in this country and your crime rate would go down.
Back room? You just said he said that on a "syndicated radio talk show". Sounds like he has nothing to hide, unlike Hillary who has lit up the airwaves with her ‘back room’ talk. Bill Bennett is an individual who speaks for himself, as everyone does.
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Max,Had you been paying attention, Bennett was a often heard speaker-turd with a high ranking position in two White Boys Only NeoCons administrations, one of them secretary of education. He favored prayer in school. Pro life Children only within marriage. Let me translate what he learned in those years : "Mr President: If we toss all the little nigger kids without dads in the dumpster after birth, we don’t have to give them welfare, education, have drug problem with them niggers at least, or build a jail for them. We can save alot of tax money and invest it is state gaming projects !
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> That, my friends, is one stupid motherfucking asshole.
Jeez fish – we agree. or why the rooms cost $450.00 in Vegas during COMDEX.
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FYI http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/babydaddy106
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>Max,Had you been paying attention, Bennett was a >often heard speaker-turd with a high ranking position in
Had you been paying attention, O.J. Simpson was an often heard speaker with a high ranking position with Hertz and ABC Sports. Got any other generalizations you want to make?
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"Got any other generalizations you want to make?" People named Mx Power are angry and dumb?
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Marknp sent me an online petition a few months ago. Something about free speech. Even though such "Astroturf Mobilization" is proven to be incredibly ineffective, wanting to support free speech, I almost put my name in there. Something told me that I should read what the petition was about first. I ended up not signing it and arguing against it. We have these "restaurants" here at Rutgers University called Grease Trucks that serve mostly Fat sandwiches. They are the fattiest sandwiches made by the dirtiest men in existence, but they taste really good. Anyways, they have names that start with Fat. Like Fat Darrel. Fat Cat. And so on. The fuss was about sandwiches called "Fat B!tch" and "Fat Dyke" and "Fat Filipino". People complained that these names were offensive, and the school forced them to change the names. Now they are called "Fat Beach" and "Fat Van Dyke" and I don’t know what happened to the last one. have a waterproof case. Well in case you haven’t heard by now, free speech is hardly unlimited. The Supreme Court has upheld flag burning, but has ruled that anarchy pamphlets do not count as "speech". To make a long story short, state governments can infringe upon free speech, but must prove that it serves a compelling state interest. Another thing about college kids is that they’ll always take the "cool" side. It’s cool to promote free speech, so most college kids will take the side of the Grease Trucks automatically. This phenomenon is known as pop politics. In the case of Fat Filipino, the case is pretty damn clear. How is the word "Filipino" offensive? It’s a sad sad day when minority groups take offensive to the proper English terminology for their group. It can’t be that the word "Fat" is paired with "Filipino", because every damn sandwich starts with "Fat". In the case of Fat B!tch, the case is a little less clear, but I’d still side with the Grease Trucks with this one. Rutgers harrasment policy defines harrasment as singling out a particular group. While "B!tch" may target women in particular, every single person reading this has been called a "b!tch" at some point. I’d argue that the word "b!tch" has become more of a general term to disparage in general. And while it may be bad language, everyone who goes to this school is old enough to be subject to obsenities. The important thing here is that harrasment policy doesn’t apply when a group isn’t singled out, so this case should have been void from the beginning. Now in the case of Fat Dyke, I have to argue against the Grease Trucks. Dyke clearly singles out a particular group: lesbians. Dyke is not the proper word to describe homosexual females. If the sandwich were named Fat Lesbian or Fat Homosexual or Fat Gay, I’d really have no problem with it. Those are proper terms. Now, dyke may have been used to describe harbors or something a long time ago, but it’s clearly used now to disparage lesbians. Asking the Grease Trucks to change the name isn’t such a horrible thing either. No one’s telling them to change the sandwich in any way. Just change the placard with its name. The Grease Trucks may not be officially Rutgers-affiliated, but they operate on campus and obviously must have some kind of contract with Rutgers. They are right across many of the classrooms and it’s not feasible to ask the offended to just stay away from the institution. Rutgers is also a publicly owned school and taxpayers money goes, in part, to create Fat Dyke signs. We were debating this in my Law And Politics recitation and had to write statements like judges and read them to the class. Someone said something to the effect of "We don’t want to show lesbian crybabies that they will get their way if they just cry about it…". That’s a great argument, Mr. Pop Politics. Now, I ask you, what would you think if there were a sandwich with your racial group’s name on it? I personally wouldn’t care if there was a Fat Korean, but I must say a Fat G*ok or a Fat Chink would rub me the wrong way. what do you do if there were sandwiches called Fat N*gger? Fat Black? Fat Jew? Fat K*ke? Fat Heeb? Fat Cracker? and so on. Words aren’t just their dictionary definitions. A word like "g*ok" has years of hatred and prejudice behind it. It’s not the word itself that’s offensive, it’s the word’s history. How many Asians were killed while being called "g0oks" and how many black people have suffered while being called "n*ggers"? Asking people to just take these words by their face values is completely unrealistic. Then again, we can’t just get offended by everything. I do not think calling anyone "black" is offensive. It’s informal for sure. "Black" may not be politically correct but it’s not offensive. Outdated terms fall here as well. A word like "Negro" is not offensive. It was the polite way to refer to black people a long time ago. It’s just outdated. Same as "Oriental", apparently Oriental only refers to rugs and stuff now. Who knew? The word "Jew" falls here, though I cannot fathom why it is offensive. Sure, it’s been used in hateful ways before, but so have words like "ugly". "Jew" is just short for Jewish people. "Jap" is just short for Japanese. If you find abbreviations offensive, I don’t know what to tell you. I think we can categorize words into offensive, politically incorrect, and the politically correct. Offensive words are fighting words; which means if you called a stranger a n*gger, you’re just asking for a fight. The PC people take offense to the politically incorrect words and no one has a problem with PC words, though people may find them just artificial and forced. The word "East Asian American" doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue, y’know? If people have freedom of speech, then people also have the freedom to be offended. I am not advocating censorship. I am not saying that people should eliminate all fighting words from their vocabulary. I think people have the right to publish racist poems here and advocate racist views. Then raters have the right to rate NH or spit back some of their own flames. It’s great that certain people can take those fighting words and not be provoked and not be offended. Yet it’s hardly fair to ask everyone to do that. Speakers have to take responsibility for their speech and if the offended fire back, they have to take responsibility for their comments. Everyone has the right to be as offended as they want. When offensive words appear in public places owned by a university, the university has the right to censor if necessary. The Grease Trucks were not a publication one can just ignore. They were not a radio station one can tune out. And they are not an epinions essay that one can choose not to read. In the epinions realm, I advocate no censorship at all. I don’t know how we can get overly-PC people to stop being so PC, so it’s just something we have to deal with. Hopefully more members agree that diversity of values and freedom of expression is more important than appeasing everyone. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This is how Neocons really talk about > the blacks in back rooms while sipping wine and eating French cheese: > Bill Bennett, who held prominent posts in the administrations of former > presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush, told a caller to his > syndicated radio talk show Wednesday: "If you wanted to reduce crime, > you could — if that were your sole purpose — you could abort every > black baby in this country and your crime rate would go down. > "That would be an impossibly ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing > to do, but your crime rate would go down," he said. > Bennett served as Reagan’s chairman of the National Endowment for the > Humanities from 1981-1985 and secretary of education from 1985-1988. >From 1989-1990, he served as "drug czar" in the administration of the > elder Bush.
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You use OJ as a example ? WTF ? An Uncle Tom football murder as a puppet for a Rental car business compared to an Education Cabinet Member of a President. You must be Black. Ummm… Maybe Bennett is right after all ! Thanks for the refresher on how lazy and useless the Black culture can be in America. Pretty soon those coons will show up at NASCAR and we’re lose another *sport* to them.
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> IMO, this guy is a sanctimonious blowhard hypocrite
So he’s really a typical right-winger.
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"Ummm… Maybe Bennett is right after all ! Thanks for the refresher on how lazy and useless the Black culture can be in America. Pretty soon those coons will show up at NASCAR and we’re lose another *sport* to them." You racist piece of shit.
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>"Got any other generalizations you want to make?" >People named Mx Power are angry and dumb?
Wow, zinger. I don’t know who’s teenage feelings I hurt more here, yours or that Scooter kid.
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Me ? Racist ? No way. How many NASCAR black racers are there ? Last time I saw it on FOX, ABC,NBC, it’s all white people. Fat white people. So there. I’m bi-racist. I don’t think letting OJ race in NASCAR is a problem persay. He will bring all his white blonde girlfriends with him from his Miami ‘Hood of golfers. I just can’t see the sport very open to Caddies and 4 door Ford LTDs hogging the left lane all the time driving half the speed of others.
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NASCAR fruits? http://www.comedycentral.com/sitewide/media_player/play.jhtml?itemId=… Samantha Bee reveals there might be some Nascar Dads who aren’t so into Nascar Moms.
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Today Bennett announced his resignation after the furor resulting from his unfortunate remarks. Another dumbshit bites the dust.
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Here is another reason why they ain’t that smart to drive NASCAR (Caddies are automatics) : A recent carjacking attempt in Shawnee, Kansas, was stalled by an unexpected anti-theft device – the targeted vehicle’s manual transmission. The suspect did not know how to operate one. Shawnee Police spokesperson Captain Ron Copeland said on September 26, the carjacker, who was armed with a shotgun, approached a man who had just parked a late-model Chevrolet Camaro in a company lot and ordered him out of the car. When the suspect entered the car, he discovered that it was equipped with a stick shift. "He’s probably too young to know how to drive a stick, but he knows how to rob," Copeland said. According to Copeland, the suspect, who is described as a thin black male in his late teens or early twenties, is a suspect in five other carjacking incidents in Johnson County. He remains at large. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ct/20050930/cr_ct/policecarjackerthwartedbyst…
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>Today Bennett announced his resignation after the furor resulting from >his unfortunate remarks. Another dumbshit bites the dust.
Hmm…shades of Dan Rather.
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Bennet is nothing of the sort. Rather did nothing wrong and still wants the story continued to be investigated because there is truth behind the basis of it, where as Bennett is yet another O’Really/Reagan Yes man bullshitter who says dumpshit off the top of his empty head with no factual content.
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> Bennett is yet >another Yes man bullshitter who says >dumpshit off the top of his empty head with no factual content.
Hmm…shades of Dan Rather.
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> NASCAR fruits? > http://www.comedycentral.com/sitewide/media_player/play.jhtml?itemId=… > Samantha Bee reveals there might be some Nascar Dads who aren’t so into > Nascar Moms.
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