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http://www.anncoulter.org/ Ann discusses the media silence on Phyllis Schlafly, and why they are wrong to ignore her. Of course the usual suspects will jump in to criticise. That’s well it is a free country. Let’s just see if there is a single grain of substance to any of it. Ron

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> http://www.anncoulter.org/ > Ann discusses the media silence on Phyllis Schlafly, and why they are > wrong to ignore her. > Of course the usual suspects will jump in to criticise. That’s well it > is a free country. Let’s just see if there is a single grain of > substance to any of it. > Ron

I thought her reasons why women shouldn’t be firefighters were funny: "their inability to pick up the hose, their tendency to cry and panic when confronted with dangerous situations, the effect on families whose homes are on fire when they open the door and see the female equivalent of Michael Dukakis in a tank" I rember seeing her on politically incorrect (though I didn’t know who she was until I read a list of quotes by her a few days ago) when she said women shouldn’t be allowed to vote. The topic was about how a recent poll at the time said most women vote by personality and stuff not by the candidates platform. She thought that was a good reason not to allow women to vote. What a kook. She was on the daily show last night. Didn’t seem too smart…. err smart at all.

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>http://www.anncoulter.org/ >Ann discusses the media silence on Phyllis Schlafly, and why they are >wrong to ignore her.

Could be that everyone (not just "the media") is ignoring Phyllis because she’s been proven wrong again and again: "In 1964, Schlafly wrote "A Choice, Not An Echo," widely credited with winning Barry Goldwater the Republican nomination for president." For which the nation profoundly thanks her. She guaranteed the election of Lyndon Johnson. "She co-authored "The Gravediggers," accusing the elite foreign-policy establishment of cheerfully selling out the nation’s military superiority to the Soviet Union." And history has proven her to be completely wrong. "She also co-authored the extremely influential (and extremely long, at more than 800 pages) "Kissinger on the Couch," methodically dissecting Kissinger’s foreign policy and attacking his beloved Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty." A treaty that managed to calm down the arms race and thereby lead to the eventual disintegration of the Soviet Nation and tha fall of communism in Europe. "An early and vigorous proponent of a missile defense shield, Schlafly has written extensively about ICBMs and missile-defense treaties. Her work was a major factor in President Reagan’s decision to proceed with the High Frontier technology." Reagan wasted billions of dollars on a "Star Wars" system that never worked.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->http://www.anncoulter.org/ >Ann discusses the media silence on Phyllis Schlafly, and why they are >wrong to ignore her. >Could be that everyone (not just "the media") is ignoring Phyllis because she’s >been proven wrong again and again: >"In 1964, Schlafly wrote "A Choice, Not An Echo," widely credited with winning >Barry Goldwater the Republican nomination for president." >For which the nation profoundly thanks her. She guaranteed the election of >Lyndon Johnson.

I think it was the assasination of President Kennedy that put that one in the bag. >"She co-authored "The Gravediggers," accusing the elite foreign-policy >establishment of cheerfully selling out the nation’s military superiority to >the Soviet Union." >And history has proven her to be completely wrong.

After Reagan came along, sure. >"She also co-authored the extremely influential (and extremely long, at more >than 800 pages) "Kissinger on the Couch," methodically dissecting Kissinger’s >foreign policy and attacking his beloved Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty." >A treaty that managed to calm down the arms race and thereby lead to the >eventual disintegration of the Soviet Nation and tha fall of communism in >Europe.

Everything after the word "thereby" is wrong. >"An early and vigorous proponent of a missile defense shield, Schlafly has >written extensively about ICBMs and missile-defense treaties. Her work was a >major factor in President Reagan’s decision to proceed with the High Frontier >technology." >Reagan wasted billions of dollars on a "Star Wars" system that never worked.

It worked beautifully. It did everything it could possibly have done and more. It was a wonderfully successful program and pretty damn economical for what it did. From the moment that program started moving, the Soviets knew, undeniably, that they could not out-spend out-engineer out-build or out-gun us. Oh, it didn’t shoot down any ICBMs, well of course not. Nobody thought that was going to happen any time soon. Ron

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I never heard of her before. My only impression was a blond 100% bi*ch Lush Blowhard wanta-be . I thought Jon Steward handled her his typical "what a as*hole* guest I’m stuck with today " additude. ///

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> http://www.anncoulter.org/ > Ann discusses the media silence on Phyllis Schlafly, and why they are > wrong to ignore her. > Of course the usual suspects will jump in to criticise. That’s well it > is a free country. Let’s just see if there is a single grain of > substance to any of it. > Ron > I thought her reasons why women shouldn’t be firefighters were funny: > "their inability to pick up the hose, their tendency to cry and panic when > confronted with dangerous situations, the effect on families whose homes are > on fire when they open the door and see the female equivalent of Michael > Dukakis in a tank" > I rember seeing her on politically incorrect (though I didn’t know who she > was until I read a list of quotes by her a few days ago) when she said women > shouldn’t be allowed to vote. The topic was about how a recent poll at the > time said most women vote by personality and stuff not by the candidates > platform. She thought that was a good reason not to allow women to vote. > What a kook. > She was on the daily show last night. Didn’t seem too smart…. err smart at > all.

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The Star Wars program technically was a 100% failure but it bankrupted the Soviets military structure that eventually led to the USSR collapse becoming what it is what it is today …. 100% poverty ! //// – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Reagan wasted billions of dollars on a "Star Wars" system that never worked. > It worked beautifully. It did everything it could possibly have done > and more. It was a wonderfully successful program and pretty damn > economical for what it did. From the moment that program started > moving, the Soviets knew, undeniably, that they could not out-spend > out-engineer out-build or out-gun us. > Oh, it didn’t shoot down any ICBMs, well of course not. Nobody thought > that was going to happen any time soon. > Ron

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>http://www.anncoulter.org/ >Ann discusses the media silence on Phyllis Schlafly, and why they are >wrong to ignore her. >Of course the usual suspects will jump in to criticise. That’s well it >is a free country. Let’s just see if there is a single grain of >substance to any of it.

C’mon, Ron, Schlafly is both a nutbag and a hypocrite. Does anyone really believe that the husband wears the pants in *her* family? Coulter really needs to eat more than once a month, she looks like a concentration camp inmate who happens to have a personal make-up artist. Malnutrition obviously can kill brain cells, now I just have to find Limbaugh’s excuse……:-)

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Every American President from Truman to Carter participated in the huge, ongoing military spending spree that eventually destroyed the USSR. Reagan was lucky enough to be the likeable guy in the Oval Office that signed off on the last dollar. That might have been the straw that finally broke the camel’s back, but lets not ignores the decades of bi-partisan effort that loaded up the camel to the breaking point before he even took the oath! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >The Star Wars program technically was a 100% failure >but it bankrupted the Soviets military structure that eventually led to >the USSR collapse becoming what it is what it is today …. 100% poverty ! >//// > >Reagan wasted billions of dollars on a "Star Wars" system that never >worked. > It worked beautifully. It did everything it could possibly have done > and more. It was a wonderfully successful program and pretty damn > economical for what it did. From the moment that program started > moving, the Soviets knew, undeniably, that they could not out-spend > out-engineer out-build or out-gun us. > Oh, it didn’t shoot down any ICBMs, well of course not. Nobody thought > that was going to happen any time soon. > Ron

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Ok .. the early straws may have bent the back, but the Reagan spending spree was the log that smashed the entire camel ! //

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Every American President from > Truman to Carter participated > in the huge, ongoing military > spending spree that eventually > destroyed the USSR. Reagan > was lucky enough to be the > likeable guy in the Oval > Office that signed off on the > last dollar. That might have > been the straw that finally > broke the camel’s back, but > lets not ignores the decades > of bi-partisan effort that > loaded up the camel to the > breaking point before he even > took the oath! >The Star Wars program technically was a 100% failure >but it bankrupted the Soviets military structure that eventually led to >the USSR collapse becoming what it is what it is today …. 100% poverty ! >//// >> >Reagan wasted billions of dollars on a "Star Wars" system that never >worked. >> It worked beautifully. It did everything it could possibly have done >> and more. It was a wonderfully successful program and pretty damn >> economical for what it did. From the moment that program started >> moving, the Soviets knew, undeniably, that they could not out-spend >> out-engineer out-build or out-gun us. >> Oh, it didn’t shoot down any ICBMs, well of course not. Nobody thought >> that was going to happen any time soon. >> Ron

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>>Reagan wasted billions of dollars on a "Star Wars" system that never worked. >It worked beautifully.

Like hell it did. >Oh, it didn’t shoot down any ICBMs, well of course not. Nobody thought >that was going to happen any time soon.

Reagan did. He wasted billions of your tax dollars. The whole point of the thing was to shoot down ICBMs.

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>Ok .. the early straws may have bent the back, >but the Reagan spending spree was >the log that smashed the entire camel !

Bullshit.

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>The Star Wars program technically was a 100% failure >but it bankrupted the Soviets military structure that eventually led to >the USSR collapse becoming what it is what it is today …. 100% poverty

Star Wars didn’t bring down communism, Levi jeans and rock & roll did. The Reagan administration didn’t plan on spending so much on defense that the Soviets would bankrupt themselves. It came as a complete surprise to them. I know this because Caspar Weinberger told me so. In person.

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There’s no way to tell if the particularly (imo) irresponsible spending and tax policies of Reagan really made much difference — but I don’t think there’s any doubt that 40+ years of a *very* costly arms race was too much for the notoriously corrupt, inefficient Soviet system to deal with. Iow, the USSR was always what the Chinese would call "a paper tiger," albeit one with expansionist ambitions and enough nukes that it couldn’t simply be ignored. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Ok .. the early straws may have bent the back, >but the Reagan spending spree was >the log that smashed the entire camel ! >// > Every American President from > Truman to Carter participated > in the huge, ongoing military > spending spree that eventually > destroyed the USSR. Reagan > was lucky enough to be the > likeable guy in the Oval > Office that signed off on the > last dollar. That might have > been the straw that finally > broke the camel’s back, but > lets not ignores the decades > of bi-partisan effort that > loaded up the camel to the > breaking point before he even > took the oath! > >The Star Wars program technically was a 100% failure > >but it bankrupted the Soviets military structure that eventually led to > >the USSR collapse becoming what it is what it is today …. 100% poverty >! > >//// > >> >Reagan wasted billions of dollars on a "Star Wars" system that never > >worked. > >> It worked beautifully. It did everything it could possibly have done > >> and more. It was a wonderfully successful program and pretty damn > >> economical for what it did. From the moment that program started > >> moving, the Soviets knew, undeniably, that they could not out-spend > >> out-engineer out-build or out-gun us. > >> Oh, it didn’t shoot down any ICBMs, well of course not. Nobody thought > >> that was going to happen any time soon. > >> Ron

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>>The Star Wars program technically was a 100% failure >but it bankrupted the Soviets military structure that eventually led to >the USSR collapse becoming what it is what it is today …. 100% poverty >Star Wars didn’t bring down communism, Levi jeans and rock & roll did. >The Reagan administration didn’t plan on spending so much on defense that the >Soviets would bankrupt themselves. It came as a complete surprise to them. I >know this because Caspar Weinberger told me so. In person.

Yeah, I believe that. Remember, though — politicians lie! :-) To be honest, I think everyone was surprised at how suddenly the USSR collapsed, especially after nearly half a century of being told how powerful and dangerous an enemy it was. Until just about the very last minute, President Bush Sr. was touting Gorbachev’s gradual "glasnost and peristroika" approach to reforming the old, centralized power structure. The USSR turned out to be a classic "paper tiger," one that simply blew away in the stiff wind of the anti- Gorbachev coup attempt — all Yelstin had to do was to look strong and stay sober long enough to take the reins, and it was all over….

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>>The Reagan administration didn’t plan on spending so much on defense that the >Soviets would bankrupt themselves. It came as a complete surprise to them. I >know this because Caspar Weinberger told me so. In person. >Yeah, I believe that. Remember, >though — politicians lie! :-)

He said it during an interview just before leaving DC and the reporter gave him at least three chances to claim that the Reagan administration had planned to spend the Soviets into bankruptcy… He denied it every time.

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Re: all the Reagan bashing… Isn’t it nice to be able to look at the world with 20/20 hindsight? Let’s not forget that in the 80’s the cold war was going strong… Like it or not, the world was not safe from the Communist threat. Sure, nowadays we realize that the Ruskies were full of hot air… but at the time, we believed that they represented a real and serious threat to U.S. security. Given that premise, Star Wars didn’t seem like a bad idea at the time. If you want to fault Reagan for anything, maybe you can fault him for not having better intelligence-gathering… but it’s hard to judge that given how little we know about that entire process. As for Reaganomics (which I’m sure SOMEONE will bring up at some point if this thread continues), think about this: The highest tax bracket before Reagan was up around 80%. That means that if you make $10, the gov’t gets $8. Reagan’s concept was that the gov’t can actually get MORE revenue by LOWERING taxes… because the rich would then have more incentive to invest. Yes, his numbers were a bit off, he lowered taxes a bit too much on the rich.. but that basic concept of lowered taxes for greater revenue is still in place today… through the Bush Sr. years, through Clinton, and now through Dubya. Reagan wasn’t the best president, but he wasn’t as bad as the liberal mindless idiots like to think he was. But as for the all-time best President, my vote is for Millard Fillmore. Opinions anybody? Ben *(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(* Arguing over the internet is kind of like running in the Special Olympics– Even if you win, you’re still retarded. *)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*

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> But as for the all-time best President, my vote is for Millard Fillmore. > Opinions anybody?

James Abram Garfield best known for ‘being shot by a disappointed office seeker’ Robert Klein used to do a bit on it …… ‘Garfield, James A….see

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Didn’t Caspar die of brain cancer before the USSR went belly up ? Around the Ollie North scandal time frame. Really – it’s over with now. Who really cares. I’m out of here. Peace. //

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>The Reagan administration didn’t plan on spending so much on defense that the >>Soviets would bankrupt themselves. It came as a complete surprise to them. I >>know this because Caspar Weinberger told me so. In person. >Yeah, I believe that. Remember, >though — politicians lie! :-) > He said it during an interview just before leaving DC and the reporter gave him > at least three chances to claim that the Reagan administration had planned to > spend the Soviets into bankruptcy… He denied it every time.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> But as for the all-time best President, my vote is for Millard Fillmore. > Opinions anybody? >James Abram Garfield >best known for ‘being shot by a disappointed office seeker’ >Robert Klein used to do a bit on it …… ‘Garfield, James A….see

William Henry Harrison — only 32 days in office and therefore very little damage to the republic.

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> I never heard of her before. My only impression was > a blond 100% bi*ch Lush Blowhard wanta-be . I thought Jon > Steward handled her his typical "what a as*hole* guest I’m stuck with > today " additude. > ///

How nice for you.And she’s " a blond 100% bi*ch Lush Blowhard wanta-be " Because Why? The only thing you mention that John Stewart did HIS usual rude mugging for the camera routine. Oh, I get it you’re just another liberal who can’t argue content. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > http://www.anncoulter.org/ > > Ann discusses the media silence on Phyllis Schlafly, and why they are > > wrong to ignore her. > > Of course the usual suspects will jump in to criticise. That’s well it > > is a free country. Let’s just see if there is a single grain of > > substance to any of it. > > Ron > I thought her reasons why women shouldn’t be firefighters were funny: > "their inability to pick up the hose, their tendency to cry and panic when > confronted with dangerous situations, the effect on families whose homes > are > on fire when they open the door and see the female equivalent of Michael > Dukakis in a tank" > I rember seeing her on politically incorrect (though I didn’t know who she > was until I read a list of quotes by her a few days ago) when she said > women > shouldn’t be allowed to vote. The topic was about how a recent poll at the > time said most women vote by personality and stuff not by the candidates > platform. She thought that was a good reason not to allow women to vote. > What a kook. > She was on the daily show last night. Didn’t seem too smart…. err smart > at > all.

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On politically incorrect she said she wasn’t aneraxic (sp?) because she had a boyfreind, and according to her people with eating problems dont have boyfriends.

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John Stewart obviosuly hated her, but jown stewart never does a "rude mugging for the camera routine." He tried making the best of who he had to interview… at one point he said something like "Isn’t this liberal vs. conservative war thing kind of out dated? No offense, but isn’t that a lot like those crazy japanese guys they found on the islands in the 50’s thinking they are still fighting the war? Today we should be more concerned with moderates vs extremeists." She replied to that with "Call them what ever you like, extremists or liberals, but that are all bad." HAHA! She totally didn’t understand what he was saying, and that pretty much ended the interview.

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I can’t recall the entire 2 minute interview, but the one passage that immediately caught my attention was her claiming that all democrats are idiots, lazy, liberals, Islam loving, anti Christians, anti-Americans, flag wavers , lairs, or something on those grounds. Maybe you can catch the rerun sometime.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I never heard of her before. My only impression was > a blond 100% bi*ch Lush Blowhard wanta-be . I thought Jon > Steward handled her his typical "what a as*hole* guest I’m stuck with > today " additude. > /// > How nice for you.And she’s " a blond 100% bi*ch Lush Blowhard wanta-be " > Because Why? The only thing you mention that John Stewart > did HIS usual rude mugging for the camera routine. > Oh, I get it you’re just another liberal who can’t argue content. > > > http://www.anncoulter.org/ > > > Ann discusses the media silence on Phyllis Schlafly, and why they are > > > wrong to ignore her. > > > Of course the usual suspects will jump in to criticise. That’s well it > > > is a free country. Let’s just see if there is a single grain of > > > substance to any of it. > > > Ron > > I thought her reasons why women shouldn’t be firefighters were funny: > > "their inability to pick up the hose, their tendency to cry and panic > when > > confronted with dangerous situations, the effect on families whose homes > are > > on fire when they open the door and see the female equivalent of Michael > > Dukakis in a tank" > > I rember seeing her on politically incorrect (though I didn’t know who > she > > was until I read a list of quotes by her a few days ago) when she said > women > > shouldn’t be allowed to vote. The topic was about how a recent poll at > the > > time said most women vote by personality and stuff not by the candidates > > platform. She thought that was a good reason not to allow women to vote. > > What a kook. > > She was on the daily show last night. Didn’t seem too smart…. err > smart > at > > all.

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> Yes, his numbers were a bit off, he lowered taxes a bit too much on the rich.. > but that basic concept of lowered taxes for greater revenue is still in place > today… through the Bush Sr. years, through Clinton, and now through Dubya. > Reagan wasn’t the best president, but he wasn’t as bad as the liberal mindless > idiots like to think he was. > But as for the all-time best President, my vote is for Millard Fillmore. > Opinions anybody? > Ben

I personally liked Truman, he took the job of V.P. out of a sense of duty, and when called upon applied the hard nosed, pragmatic, common sense that he was known for. He was honest and unapologetic. He served his country, unlike some recent examples that made their country serve them.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >http://www.anncoulter.org/ > >Ann discusses the media silence on Phyllis Schlafly, and why they are > >wrong to ignore her. > >Of course the usual suspects will jump in to criticise. That’s well it > >is a free country. Let’s just see if there is a single grain of > >substance to any of it. > C’mon, Ron, Schlafly is both a > nutbag and a hypocrite. Does > anyone really believe that the > husband wears the pants in > *her* family? Coulter really > needs to eat more than once a > month, she looks like a > concentration camp inmate who > happens to have a personal > make-up artist. Malnutrition > obviously can kill brain > cells, now I just have to find > Limbaugh’s excuse……:-) >On politically incorrect she said she wasn’t aneraxic (sp?) because she had >a boyfreind, and according to her people with eating problems dont have >boyfriends.

Interesting theory, about as sound as her take on politics. If I want sound conservative thinking, I’ll read George Will, if I want pompous moralizing, there’s always William Bennett. Coulter is just a media wannabe waiting to get herself a show — nobody would pay her a second’s attention if she wasn’t persistent, loud, and female. She’s like Schlafly, only younger and frighteningly skinnier!

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