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>Jesus loves you. >Ken Wilson >Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, >Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, and the rest of the >Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) >and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) >Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

Kenny: I’d be grateful if you would stop telling me "Jesus loves you." You don’t know shit about me. I could be a Jew, a Muslim, a Budhist, a Zen Taoist, a Sorastrian. In each and every case your presumptuous blessing would be offensive. As it happens, I’m a Calvinist and that makes your impertinent "blessing" ten times more offensive than if I were a pagan. My place in heaven is reserved by birth and resolute action in life, without any help from you, thank you. More, I have this horrid nightmare that I turn up before the pearly gates and Peter says, "You let that sick fuck Ken Wilson speak on our behalf? You had it made in life and the afterlife, you risked everything for the poor and downtrodden, and *then* you let that sick fuck Wilson speak for us!" Clunk goes the trapdoor. Down the chute into the hot place goes I. Go be limp somewhere else, Kenny; don’t wish on me what will surely befall you for all the damage you do to rationality. You see, by any rationality, and particularly by the rationality of Jesus himself as reported in the Gospels, you, Ken Wilson, are no more a Christian than an idiot like Soul can be a Muslim because he thinks it fashionable. The "Christianity" you preach is the perversion of the mob, a self-entitled mob, a smug mob, to be sure, but still just a mob. Jesus preached that there was a private conscience even within Judaic Law. He did not pronounce (as you daily presume to do) on morality; he did not make normative statements on ethics. Instead he sent people away to think for themselves. He was a radical; you are a limp reactionary despite the leftwing slogans you mouth without meaning, spewing hatred for the satisfaction of spewing hatred, covering your evil with a thin veneer of "concern" for those less privileged; the entire politically correct left is a reactionary fascist movement, very destructive of those foundations of society that Jesus honored and strenuously promoted. So, if you don’t mind, I cringe with revulsion when someone like you says to me "Jesus loves you". You have no right to speak for Jesus. Please don’t. Andre Jute PS If you had taken the trouble actually to read the bible rather than swallow some predigested myths without first examining them, you would know that what you pretend is your Christianity has nothing to do with Jesus Christ. You clearly haven’t the faintest idea of who Jesus was and what he stood for, or what his memory stands for among those blessed with the ability to think for themselves.

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courageously avow: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Jesus loves you. >Ken Wilson >Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, >Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, and the rest of the >Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) >and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) >Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/ >Kenny: >I’d be grateful if you would stop telling me "Jesus loves you." You >don’t know shit about me. I could be a Jew, a Muslim, a Budhist, a Zen >Taoist, a Sorastrian. In each and every case your presumptuous blessing >would be offensive. >As it happens, I’m a Calvinist and that makes your impertinent >"blessing" ten times more offensive than if I were a pagan. My place in >heaven is reserved by birth and resolute action in life, without any >help from you, thank you. More, I have this horrid nightmare that I >turn up before the pearly gates and Peter says, "You let that sick fuck >Ken Wilson speak on our behalf? You had it made in life and the >afterlife, you risked everything for the poor and downtrodden, and >*then* you let that sick fuck Wilson speak for us!" Clunk goes the >trapdoor. Down the chute into the hot place goes I. Go be limp >somewhere else, Kenny; don’t wish on me what will surely befall you for >all the damage you do to rationality. >You see, by any rationality, and particularly by the rationality of >Jesus himself as reported in the Gospels, you, Ken Wilson, are no more >a Christian than an idiot like Soul can be a Muslim because he thinks >it fashionable. The "Christianity" you preach is the perversion of the >mob, a self-entitled mob, a smug mob, to be sure, but still just a mob. >Jesus preached that there was a private conscience even within Judaic >Law. He did not pronounce (as you daily presume to do) on morality; he >did not make normative statements on ethics. Instead he sent people >away to think for themselves. He was a radical; you are a limp >reactionary despite the leftwing slogans you mouth without meaning, >spewing hatred for the satisfaction of spewing hatred, covering your >evil with a thin veneer of "concern" for those less privileged; the >entire politically correct left is a reactionary fascist movement, very >destructive of those foundations of society that Jesus honored and >strenuously promoted. >So, if you don’t mind, I cringe with revulsion when someone like you >says to me "Jesus loves you". You have no right to speak for Jesus. >Please don’t. >Andre Jute >PS If you had taken the trouble actually to read the bible rather than >swallow some predigested myths without first examining them, you would >know that what you pretend is your Christianity has nothing to do with >Jesus Christ. You clearly haven’t the faintest idea of who Jesus was >and what he stood for, or what his memory stands for among those >blessed with the ability to think for themselves.

So go away and think for yourself and I’ll think for myself.  BTW, Jesus loves you. Ken Wilson Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas,  Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, and the rest of the  Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE)  and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > courageously avow: >>Jesus loves you. >>Ken Wilson >>Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, >>Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, and the rest of the >>Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) >>and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) >>Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/ >Kenny: >I’d be grateful if you would stop telling me "Jesus loves you." You >don’t know shit about me. I could be a Jew, a Muslim, a Budhist, a Zen >Taoist, a Sorastrian. In each and every case your presumptuous blessing >would be offensive. >As it happens, I’m a Calvinist and that makes your impertinent >"blessing" ten times more offensive than if I were a pagan. My place in >heaven is reserved by birth and resolute action in life, without any >help from you, thank you. More, I have this horrid nightmare that I >turn up before the pearly gates and Peter says, "You let that sick fuck >Ken Wilson speak on our behalf? You had it made in life and the >afterlife, you risked everything for the poor and downtrodden, and >*then* you let that sick fuck Wilson speak for us!" Clunk goes the >trapdoor. Down the chute into the hot place goes I. Go be limp >somewhere else, Kenny; don’t wish on me what will surely befall you for >all the damage you do to rationality. >You see, by any rationality, and particularly by the rationality of >Jesus himself as reported in the Gospels, you, Ken Wilson, are no more >a Christian than an idiot like Soul can be a Muslim because he thinks >it fashionable. The "Christianity" you preach is the perversion of the >mob, a self-entitled mob, a smug mob, to be sure, but still just a mob. >Jesus preached that there was a private conscience even within Judaic >Law. He did not pronounce (as you daily presume to do) on morality; he >did not make normative statements on ethics. Instead he sent people >away to think for themselves. He was a radical; you are a limp >reactionary despite the leftwing slogans you mouth without meaning, >spewing hatred for the satisfaction of spewing hatred, covering your >evil with a thin veneer of "concern" for those less privileged; the >entire politically correct left is a reactionary fascist movement, very >destructive of those foundations of society that Jesus honored and >strenuously promoted. >So, if you don’t mind, I cringe with revulsion when someone like you >says to me "Jesus loves you". You have no right to speak for Jesus. >Please don’t. >Andre Jute >PS If you had taken the trouble actually to read the bible rather than >swallow some predigested myths without first examining them, you would >know that what you pretend is your Christianity has nothing to do with >Jesus Christ. You clearly haven’t the faintest idea of who Jesus was >and what he stood for, or what his memory stands for among those >blessed with the ability to think for themselves. > So go away and think for yourself and I’ll think for myself.  BTW, > Jesus loves you. > Ken Wilson

Jesus! Is that guy clueless!   –E

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Jesus loves you. >Ken Wilson >Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, >Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, and the rest of the >Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) >and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) >Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/ >Kenny: >I’d be grateful if you would stop telling me "Jesus loves you." You >don’t know shit about me. I could be a Jew, a Muslim, a Budhist, a Zen >Taoist, a Sorastrian. In each and every case your presumptuous blessing >would be offensive. >As it happens, I’m a Calvinist and that makes your impertinent >"blessing" ten times more offensive than if I were a pagan. My place in >heaven is reserved by birth and resolute action in life, without any >help from you, thank you. More, I have this horrid nightmare that I >turn up before the pearly gates and Peter says, "You let that sick fuck >Ken Wilson speak on our behalf? You had it made in life and the >afterlife, you risked everything for the poor and downtrodden, and >*then* you let that sick fuck Wilson speak for us!" Clunk goes the >trapdoor. Down the chute into the hot place goes I. Go be limp >somewhere else, Kenny; don’t wish on me what will surely befall you for >all the damage you do to rationality. >You see, by any rationality, and particularly by the rationality of >Jesus himself as reported in the Gospels, you, Ken Wilson, are no more >a Christian than an idiot like Soul can be a Muslim because he thinks >it fashionable. The "Christianity" you preach is the perversion of the >mob, a self-entitled mob, a smug mob, to be sure, but still just a mob. >Jesus preached that there was a private conscience even within Judaic >Law. He did not pronounce (as you daily presume to do) on morality; he >did not make normative statements on ethics. Instead he sent people >away to think for themselves. He was a radical; you are a limp >reactionary despite the leftwing slogans you mouth without meaning, >spewing hatred for the satisfaction of spewing hatred, covering your >evil with a thin veneer of "concern" for those less privileged; the >entire politically correct left is a reactionary fascist movement, very >destructive of those foundations of society that Jesus honored and >strenuously promoted. >So, if you don’t mind, I cringe with revulsion when someone like you >says to me "Jesus loves you". You have no right to speak for Jesus. >Please don’t. >Andre Jute >PS If you had taken the trouble actually to read the bible rather than >swallow some predigested myths without first examining them, you would >know that what you pretend is your Christianity has nothing to do with >Jesus Christ. You clearly haven’t the faintest idea of who Jesus was >and what he stood for, or what his memory stands for among those >blessed with the ability to think for themselves.

Thanks Andre.  That was good. I especially loved the St. Peter part: "You let that sick fuck Ken Wilson speak on our behalf?" My hat’s off to Jute! Pete — Oh look, the exploding circus is coming to town. One night only. –Brak’s Dad

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> courageously avow: > >>Jesus loves you. > >>Ken Wilson > >>Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, > >>Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, and the rest of the > >>Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) > >>and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) > >>Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/ > >Kenny: > >I’d be grateful if you would stop telling me "Jesus loves you." You > >don’t know shit about me. I could be a Jew, a Muslim, a Budhist, a Zen > >Taoist, a Sorastrian. In each and every case your presumptuous blessing > >would be offensive. > >As it happens, I’m a Calvinist and that makes your impertinent > >"blessing" ten times more offensive than if I were a pagan. My place in > >heaven is reserved by birth and resolute action in life, without any > >help from you, thank you. More, I have this horrid nightmare that I > >turn up before the pearly gates and Peter says, "You let that sick fuck > >Ken Wilson speak on our behalf? You had it made in life and the > >afterlife, you risked everything for the poor and downtrodden, and > >*then* you let that sick fuck Wilson speak for us!" Clunk goes the > >trapdoor. Down the chute into the hot place goes I. Go be limp > >somewhere else, Kenny; don’t wish on me what will surely befall you for > >all the damage you do to rationality. > >You see, by any rationality, and particularly by the rationality of > >Jesus himself as reported in the Gospels, you, Ken Wilson, are no more > >a Christian than an idiot like Soul can be a Muslim because he thinks > >it fashionable. The "Christianity" you preach is the perversion of the > >mob, a self-entitled mob, a smug mob, to be sure, but still just a mob. > >Jesus preached that there was a private conscience even within Judaic > >Law. He did not pronounce (as you daily presume to do) on morality; he > >did not make normative statements on ethics. Instead he sent people > >away to think for themselves. He was a radical; you are a limp > >reactionary despite the leftwing slogans you mouth without meaning, > >spewing hatred for the satisfaction of spewing hatred, covering your > >evil with a thin veneer of "concern" for those less privileged; the > >entire politically correct left is a reactionary fascist movement, very > >destructive of those foundations of society that Jesus honored and > >strenuously promoted. > >So, if you don’t mind, I cringe with revulsion when someone like you > >says to me "Jesus loves you". You have no right to speak for Jesus. > >Please don’t. > >Andre Jute > >PS If you had taken the trouble actually to read the bible rather than > >swallow some predigested myths without first examining them, you would > >know that what you pretend is your Christianity has nothing to do with > >Jesus Christ. You clearly haven’t the faintest idea of who Jesus was > >and what he stood for, or what his memory stands for among those > >blessed with the ability to think for themselves. > So go away and think for yourself and I’ll think for myself.  BTW, > Jesus loves you. > Ken Wilson > Jesus! Is that guy clueless! >   –E

Nah, Ether, we can’t condemn Ken Wilson simply because he appears to be a congenital idiot. What I’m condemning him for is his constant malice and of course his insolence in presuming he can be a messenger for Jesus. And now for his foul manners: I ask him not to curse me with his "blessing", and his answer is deliberately to do it again. Ken Wilson isn’t only stupid, malicious and blasphemous, he’s an ill-mannered lout as well. Andre Jute Zero tolerance for the enemies of society

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > courageously avow: > > >>Jesus loves you. > > >>Ken Wilson > > >>Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, > > >>Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, and the rest of the > > >>Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) > > >>and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) > > >>Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/ > > >Kenny: > > >I’d be grateful if you would stop telling me "Jesus loves you." You > > >don’t know shit about me. I could be a Jew, a Muslim, a Budhist, a Zen > > >Taoist, a Sorastrian. In each and every case your presumptuous blessing > > >would be offensive. > > >As it happens, I’m a Calvinist and that makes your impertinent > > >"blessing" ten times more offensive than if I were a pagan. My place in > > >heaven is reserved by birth and resolute action in life, without any > > >help from you, thank you. More, I have this horrid nightmare that I > > >turn up before the pearly gates and Peter says, "You let that sick fuck > > >Ken Wilson speak on our behalf? You had it made in life and the > > >afterlife, you risked everything for the poor and downtrodden, and > > >*then* you let that sick fuck Wilson speak for us!" Clunk goes the > > >trapdoor. Down the chute into the hot place goes I. Go be limp > > >somewhere else, Kenny; don’t wish on me what will surely befall you for > > >all the damage you do to rationality. > > >You see, by any rationality, and particularly by the rationality of > > >Jesus himself as reported in the Gospels, you, Ken Wilson, are no more > > >a Christian than an idiot like Soul can be a Muslim because he thinks > > >it fashionable. The "Christianity" you preach is the perversion of the > > >mob, a self-entitled mob, a smug mob, to be sure, but still just a mob. > > >Jesus preached that there was a private conscience even within Judaic > > >Law. He did not pronounce (as you daily presume to do) on morality; he > > >did not make normative statements on ethics. Instead he sent people > > >away to think for themselves. He was a radical; you are a limp > > >reactionary despite the leftwing slogans you mouth without meaning, > > >spewing hatred for the satisfaction of spewing hatred, covering your > > >evil with a thin veneer of "concern" for those less privileged; the > > >entire politically correct left is a reactionary fascist movement, very > > >destructive of those foundations of society that Jesus honored and > > >strenuously promoted. > > >So, if you don’t mind, I cringe with revulsion when someone like you > > >says to me "Jesus loves you". You have no right to speak for Jesus. > > >Please don’t. > > >Andre Jute > > >PS If you had taken the trouble actually to read the bible rather than > > >swallow some predigested myths without first examining them, you would > > >know that what you pretend is your Christianity has nothing to do with > > >Jesus Christ. You clearly haven’t the faintest idea of who Jesus was > > >and what he stood for, or what his memory stands for among those > > >blessed with the ability to think for themselves. > > So go away and think for yourself and I’ll think for myself.  BTW, > > Jesus loves you. > > Ken Wilson > Jesus! Is that guy clueless! >   –E > Nah, Ether, we can’t condemn Ken Wilson simply because he appears to be > a congenital idiot. What I’m condemning him for is his constant malice > and of course his insolence in presuming he can be a messenger for > Jesus. And now for his foul manners: I ask him not to curse me with his > "blessing", and his answer is deliberately to do it again. Ken Wilson > isn’t only stupid, malicious and blasphemous, he’s an ill-mannered lout > as well. > Andre Jute > Zero tolerance for the enemies of society

Actually, Andre, I was talking about you. But as Ken says, Jesus probably loves you. (Or at least finds your ridiculous indignation amusing.)   –E

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<snip> > As it happens, I’m a Calvinist and that makes your impertinent > "blessing" ten times more offensive than if I were a pagan. My place > in > heaven is reserved by birth and resolute action in life, without any > help from you, thank you. More, I have this horrid nightmare that I > turn up before the pearly gates and Peter says, "You let that sick > fuck > Ken Wilson speak on our behalf? You had it made in life and the > afterlife, you risked everything for the poor and downtrodden, and > *then* you let that sick fuck Wilson speak for us!" Clunk goes the > trapdoor. Down the chute into the hot place goes I. Go be limp > somewhere else, Kenny; don’t wish on me what will surely befall you > for > all the damage you do to rationality.

Some thoughts: 1). Your theology is flakey if you think that St Peter is actually standing at the Pearly Gates with the keys to heaven letting you in, or denying you access. 2). Your theology is flakey if you think that your salvation is based on whether you let Ken speak on behalf of all christians – which he wasn’t. 3). And I am sure that Calvin would not support your foul language if he were alive today. 4). Jesus does indeed love you. The fact that Ken might be being ‘funny’ (to be generous here) doesn’t affect this. :-) Peace, grol

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > <snip> > As it happens, I’m a Calvinist and that makes your impertinent > "blessing" ten times more offensive than if I were a pagan. My place > in > heaven is reserved by birth and resolute action in life, without any > help from you, thank you. More, I have this horrid nightmare that I > turn up before the pearly gates and Peter says, "You let that sick > fuck > Ken Wilson speak on our behalf? You had it made in life and the > afterlife, you risked everything for the poor and downtrodden, and > *then* you let that sick fuck Wilson speak for us!" Clunk goes the > trapdoor. Down the chute into the hot place goes I. Go be limp > somewhere else, Kenny; don’t wish on me what will surely befall you > for > all the damage you do to rationality. > Some thoughts: > 1). Your theology is flakey if you think that St Peter is actually > standing at the Pearly Gates with the keys to heaven letting you in, or > denying you access. > 2). Your theology is flakey if you think that your salvation is based on > whether you let Ken speak on behalf of all christians – which he wasn’t. > 3). And I am sure that Calvin would not support your foul language if he > were alive today. > 4). Jesus does indeed love you. The fact that Ken might be being ‘funny’ > (to be generous here) doesn’t affect this. :-) > Peace, > grol

A friend of mine believes he has identified the humour centre in pig brains and is talking about transplants to people like you. Send your phone number so he can contact you. — Andre Jute

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> <snip> > > As it happens, I’m a Calvinist and that makes your impertinent > > "blessing" ten times more offensive than if I were a pagan. My > > place > > in > > heaven is reserved by birth and resolute action in life, without > > any > > help from you, thank you. More, I have this horrid nightmare that I > > turn up before the pearly gates and Peter says, "You let that sick > > fuck > > Ken Wilson speak on our behalf? You had it made in life and the > > afterlife, you risked everything for the poor and downtrodden, and > > *then* you let that sick fuck Wilson speak for us!" Clunk goes the > > trapdoor. Down the chute into the hot place goes I. Go be limp > > somewhere else, Kenny; don’t wish on me what will surely befall you > > for > > all the damage you do to rationality. > Some thoughts: > 1). Your theology is flakey if you think that St Peter is actually > standing at the Pearly Gates with the keys to heaven letting you in, > or > denying you access. > 2). Your theology is flakey if you think that your salvation is based > on > whether you let Ken speak on behalf of all christians – which he > wasn’t. > 3). And I am sure that Calvin would not support your foul language if > he > were alive today. > 4). Jesus does indeed love you. The fact that Ken might be being > ‘funny’ > (to be generous here) doesn’t affect this. :-) > Peace, > grol > A friend of mine believes he has identified the humour centre in pig > brains and is talking about transplants to people like you. Send your > phone number so he can contact you. — Andre Jute

Perhaps you need to when you read Ken’s posts in future? :-)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > > courageously avow: > > > >>Jesus loves you. > > > >>Ken Wilson > > > >>Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, > > > >>Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, and the rest of the > > > >>Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) > > > >>and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) > > > >>Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/ > > > >Kenny: > > > >I’d be grateful if you would stop telling me "Jesus loves you." You > > > >don’t know shit about me. I could be a Jew, a Muslim, a Budhist, a Zen > > > >Taoist, a Sorastrian. In each and every case your presumptuous blessing > > > >would be offensive. > > > >As it happens, I’m a Calvinist and that makes your impertinent > > > >"blessing" ten times more offensive than if I were a pagan. My place in > > > >heaven is reserved by birth and resolute action in life, without any > > > >help from you, thank you. More, I have this horrid nightmare that I > > > >turn up before the pearly gates and Peter says, "You let that sick fuck > > > >Ken Wilson speak on our behalf? You had it made in life and the > > > >afterlife, you risked everything for the poor and downtrodden, and > > > >*then* you let that sick fuck Wilson speak for us!" Clunk goes the > > > >trapdoor. Down the chute into the hot place goes I. Go be limp > > > >somewhere else, Kenny; don’t wish on me what will surely befall you for > > > >all the damage you do to rationality. > > > >You see, by any rationality, and particularly by the rationality of > > > >Jesus himself as reported in the Gospels, you, Ken Wilson, are no more > > > >a Christian than an idiot like Soul can be a Muslim because he thinks > > > >it fashionable. The "Christianity" you preach is the perversion of the > > > >mob, a self-entitled mob, a smug mob, to be sure, but still just a mob. > > > >Jesus preached that there was a private conscience even within Judaic > > > >Law. He did not pronounce (as you daily presume to do) on morality; he > > > >did not make normative statements on ethics. Instead he sent people > > > >away to think for themselves. He was a radical; you are a limp > > > >reactionary despite the leftwing slogans you mouth without meaning, > > > >spewing hatred for the satisfaction of spewing hatred, covering your > > > >evil with a thin veneer of "concern" for those less privileged; the > > > >entire politically correct left is a reactionary fascist movement, very > > > >destructive of those foundations of society that Jesus honored and > > > >strenuously promoted. > > > >So, if you don’t mind, I cringe with revulsion when someone like you > > > >says to me "Jesus loves you". You have no right to speak for Jesus. > > > >Please don’t. > > > >Andre Jute > > > >PS If you had taken the trouble actually to read the bible rather than > > > >swallow some predigested myths without first examining them, you would > > > >know that what you pretend is your Christianity has nothing to do with > > > >Jesus Christ. You clearly haven’t the faintest idea of who Jesus was > > > >and what he stood for, or what his memory stands for among those > > > >blessed with the ability to think for themselves. > > > So go away and think for yourself and I’ll think for myself.  BTW, > > > Jesus loves you. > > > Ken Wilson > > Jesus! Is that guy clueless! > >   –E > Nah, Ether, we can’t condemn Ken Wilson simply because he appears to be > a congenital idiot. What I’m condemning him for is his constant malice > and of course his insolence in presuming he can be a messenger for > Jesus. And now for his foul manners: I ask him not to curse me with his > "blessing", and his answer is deliberately to do it again. Ken Wilson > isn’t only stupid, malicious and blasphemous, he’s an ill-mannered lout > as well. > Andre Jute > Zero tolerance for the enemies of society > Actually, Andre, I was talking about you.

I knew that, Ether. But it was an opportunity to send up another pompous self-righteous snit (you), and of course to reprint my analysis of Kenny’s tacky brand of "Christianity". Thanks for the chance. > But as Ken says, Jesus probably loves you.

You’re another lout with foul manners. > (Or at least finds your > ridiculous indignation amusing.)

Wow! And the presumption to speak for a god, just like that insolent nobody Wilson. There’s zero indignation in my original post, sonny, though one needs some sophistication to understand how I manipulated the material to give the impression of righteous and sincere anger to pompous twits while at the same time signalling to my peers that I’m leading some not overly bright enemies of society around by the nose. If English isn’t your mother tongue I can recommend a good reading comprehension course at a community college near you. See also my post to Grolschie about pig brain transplants for the terminally humourless. >   –E

I note that you haven’t been brave, or informed, enough to argue my points. Do you actually have anything to add, except personal abuse? Or do you know as little about Christianity as that poseur Wilson? Andre Jute

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> do you know as little about Christianity as that poseur Wilson?

Please enlighten us with your expert knowledge of Christianity. I have seen no evidence thus far.

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>Nah, Ether, we can’t condemn Ken Wilson simply because he appears to be >a congenital idiot. What I’m condemning him for is his constant malice >and of course his insolence in presuming he can be a messenger for >Jesus. And now for his foul manners: I ask him not to curse me with his >"blessing", and his answer is deliberately to do it again. Ken Wilson >isn’t only stupid, malicious and blasphemous, he’s an ill-mannered lout >as well. >Andre Jute >Zero tolerance for the enemies of society

LV, you were right.  Jute’s good at this. Pete — Oh look, the exploding circus is coming to town. One night only. –Brak’s Dad

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Thanks for your support gentlemen.  As far as Andre goes I think I’ve got that floater flushed. Ken Wilson Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas,  Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, and the rest of the  Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE)  and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Nah, Ether, we can’t condemn Ken Wilson simply because he appears to be >a congenital idiot. What I’m condemning him for is his constant malice >and of course his insolence in presuming he can be a messenger for >Jesus. And now for his foul manners: I ask him not to curse me with his >"blessing", and his answer is deliberately to do it again. Ken Wilson >isn’t only stupid, malicious and blasphemous, he’s an ill-mannered lout >as well. >Andre Jute >Zero tolerance for the enemies of society > LV, you were right.  Jute’s good at this. > Pete

A true flame-meister. He’s a professional author, so his language skills are excellent. Like me, he can spot who the snotty little assholes are by reading a very small amount of their output.  Wilson et al would do well to steer clear of him, but none of them are that smart.  Sit back and watch the show.  ;-) Lord Valve Globally Warm

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did courageously avow: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Nah, Ether, we can’t condemn Ken Wilson simply because he appears to be > >a congenital idiot. What I’m condemning him for is his constant malice > >and of course his insolence in presuming he can be a messenger for > >Jesus. And now for his foul manners: I ask him not to curse me with his > >"blessing", and his answer is deliberately to do it again. Ken Wilson > >isn’t only stupid, malicious and blasphemous, he’s an ill-mannered lout > >as well. > >Andre Jute > >Zero tolerance for the enemies of society > LV, you were right.  Jute’s good at this. > Pete >A true flame-meister. >He’s a professional author, so his language skills are excellent. >Like me, he can spot who the snotty little assholes are by reading >a very small amount of their output.  Wilson et al would do well >to steer clear of him, but none of them are that smart.  Sit back >and watch the show.  ;-) >Lord Valve >Globally Warm

Jesus love you. Ken Wilson Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas,  Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, and the rest of the  Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE)  and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Nah, Ether, we can’t condemn Ken Wilson simply because he appears to be > >a congenital idiot. What I’m condemning him for is his constant malice > >and of course his insolence in presuming he can be a messenger for > >Jesus. And now for his foul manners: I ask him not to curse me with his > >"blessing", and his answer is deliberately to do it again. Ken Wilson > >isn’t only stupid, malicious and blasphemous, he’s an ill-mannered lout > >as well. > >Andre Jute > >Zero tolerance for the enemies of society > LV, you were right.  Jute’s good at this. > Pete > A true flame-meister. > He’s a professional author, so his language skills are excellent. > Like me, he can spot who the snotty little assholes are by reading > a very small amount of their output.  Wilson et al would do well > to steer clear of him, but none of them are that smart.  Sit back > and watch the show.  ;-) > Lord Valve > Globally Warm

Nope.  He’s just another racist white supremacist asshole like you. Enlisted by you to the job a coward like you can’t finish.  Typical republican.  Wars fun if you can get someone else to fight it for you.

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> do you know as little about Christianity as that poseur Wilson? > Please enlighten us with your expert knowledge of Christianity. I have > seen no evidence thus far.

Perhaps you might lighten up a tad. I’ve seen many challenge Mr. Jute. For the most part it is akin to Caspar Milquetoast unknowingly taking on Mike Tyson.  Just be careful my good fellow. west – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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> I’d be grateful if you would stop telling me "Jesus loves you."

He’s referring to Jesus Alou, the baseball player, who does love you. > As it happens, I’m a Calvinist and that makes your impertinent > "blessing" ten times more offensive than if I were a pagan.

You worship the little cartoon guy? Way cool. > My place in heaven is reserved by birth

Sort of like George W. Bush getting into Harvard? > I have this horrid nightmare that I > turn up before the pearly gates and Peter says, "You let that sick fuck > Ken Wilson speak on our behalf?

Do you really think that Saint Peter would use the term "sick fuck"? > You clearly haven’t the faintest idea of who Jesus was > and what he stood for, or what his memory stands for among those > blessed with the ability to think for themselves.

He a career batting average of .280.

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> 3). And I am sure that Calvin would not support your foul language if he > were alive today.

Then how do you explain all those stickers of him pissing on things stuck to the back of pick-up trucks?

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> > do you know as little about Christianity as that poseur Wilson? > Please enlighten us with your expert knowledge of Christianity. I have > seen no evidence thus far.

Whoa, Grolschie. I am not trying to convert you or that heathen mouthfoamer Ken Wilson to Christianity.  The boot is on the other foot. Wilson presumes to set himself up as an intermediary between Jesus and me. I reject his impertinence. Therefore it is not up to me to prove I know anything at all about Chirstianity; it is up to Wilson and his equally dim little street corner gang to prove that a) they have a right to consider themselves Christians and b) that they have a right to speak for Jesus to other Christians (or anyone else) who reject Wilson and all his malicious kin out of hand as enemies of society. By all means start a discussion with me on Christianity, if you are feeling reckless. A good start would be to contest a single one of the facts stated in my original post, which I give again below my signature. It is significant to everyone with brains on AGA and RAT that Wilson’s little street corner gang of jeerers and sneerer have not even attempted to argue a single one of my points. You know you can’t, so you do the only thing you’re even half-good at, you jeer and you sneer. Notice how few of Kenny’s little helpers have jumped into the fray this time? It is because some of them know more about Christianity than Islam, and are therefore qualified in some small way to know that I am perfectly right and Kenny Wilson is perfectly wrong, in short that Wilson is no sort of a Christian, that his ostentatious "Christianity" is a ludicrous veneer over his omnidirectional malice. Looking forward to hearing that you quarterwits between put one brain cell together to argue with. Andre Jute HERE’S MY ORIGINAL POST: >Jesus loves you. >Ken Wilson >Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, >Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, and the rest of the >Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) >and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) >Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

Kenny: I’d be grateful if you would stop telling me "Jesus loves you." You don’t know shit about me. I could be a Jew, a Muslim, a Budhist, a Zen Taoist, a Sorastrian. In each and every case your presumptuous blessing would be offensive. As it happens, I’m a Calvinist and that makes your impertinent "blessing" ten times more offensive than if I were a pagan. My place in heaven is reserved by birth and resolute action in life, without any help from you, thank you. More, I have this horrid nightmare that I turn up before the pearly gates and Peter says, "You let that sick fuck Ken Wilson speak on our behalf? You had it made in life and the afterlife, you risked everything for the poor and downtrodden, and *then* you let that sick fuck Wilson speak for us!" Clunk goes the trapdoor. Down the chute into the hot place goes I. Go be limp somewhere else, Kenny; don’t wish on me what will surely befall you for all the damage you do to rationality. You see, by any rationality, and particularly by the rationality of Jesus himself as reported in the Gospels, you, Ken Wilson, are no more a Christian than an idiot like Soul can be a Muslim because he thinks it fashionable. The "Christianity" you preach is the perversion of the mob, a self-entitled mob, a smug mob, to be sure, but still just a mob. Jesus preached that there was a private conscience even within Judaic Law. He did not pronounce (as you daily presume to do) on morality; he did not make normative statements on ethics. Instead he sent people away to think for themselves. He was a radical; you are a limp reactionary despite the leftwing slogans you mouth without meaning, spewing hatred for the satisfaction of spewing hatred, covering your evil with a thin veneer of "concern" for those less privileged; the entire politically correct left is a reactionary fascist movement, very destructive of those foundations of society that Jesus honored and strenuously promoted. So, if you don’t mind, I cringe with revulsion when someone like you says to me "Jesus loves you". You have no right to speak for Jesus. Please don’t. Andre Jute PS If you had taken the trouble actually to read the bible rather than swallow some predigested myths without first examining them, you would know that what you pretend is your Christianity has nothing to do with Jesus Christ. You clearly haven’t the faintest idea of who Jesus was and what he stood for, or what his memory stands for among those blessed with the ability to think for themselves.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Nah, Ether, we can’t condemn Ken Wilson simply because he appears to be > >a congenital idiot. What I’m condemning him for is his constant malice > >and of course his insolence in presuming he can be a messenger for > >Jesus. And now for his foul manners: I ask him not to curse me with his > >"blessing", and his answer is deliberately to do it again. Ken Wilson > >isn’t only stupid, malicious and blasphemous, he’s an ill-mannered lout > >as well. > >Andre Jute > >Zero tolerance for the enemies of society > LV, you were right.  Jute’s good at this. > Pete >A true flame-meister. >He’s a professional author, so his language skills are excellent. >Like me, he can spot who the snotty little assholes are by reading >a very small amount of their output.  Wilson et al would do well >to steer clear of him, but none of them are that smart.  Sit back >and watch the show.  ;-) >Lord Valve >Globally Warm

Careful….  don’t warn them! Yeah, I imagine they’ll think they can take Jute on.  Look at all the arguments they think they won here on aga. Pete — Oh look, the exploding circus is coming to town. One night only. –Brak’s Dad

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Nah, Ether, we can’t condemn Ken Wilson simply because he appears to be > >a congenital idiot. What I’m condemning him for is his constant malice > >and of course his insolence in presuming he can be a messenger for > >Jesus. And now for his foul manners: I ask him not to curse me with his > >"blessing", and his answer is deliberately to do it again. Ken Wilson > >isn’t only stupid, malicious and blasphemous, he’s an ill-mannered lout > >as well. > >Andre Jute > >Zero tolerance for the enemies of society > LV, you were right.  Jute’s good at this. >A true flame-meister. >He’s a professional author, so his language skills >are excellent.

The one doesn’t mean the other. >Like me, he can spot who the snotty little assholes >are by reading a very small amount of their output.  

Translation: "I can spot people who disagree with me, and they’re idiots." >Wilson et al would do well to steer clear of him, but >none of them are that smart.  Sit back and watch the >show.  ;-)

The points in Monsieur Jute’s accusation could apply to you just as well. The Repair Guy http://repairguy1993.netfirms.com/

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>> > do you know as little about Christianity as that poseur Wilson? > Please enlighten us with your expert knowledge of Christianity. I have > seen no evidence thus far. >Whoa, Grolschie. I am not trying to convert you or that heathen >mouthfoamer Ken Wilson to Christianity.  The boot is on the other foot. >Wilson presumes to set himself up as an intermediary between Jesus and >me.

Yo, Andre – Ken does it for the same reason the Valvulator does it: to insult and annoy. He wasn’t intermediating anything. The Repair Guy http://repairguy1993.netfirms.com/

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > courageously avow: >>Jesus loves you. >>Ken Wilson >>Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, >>Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, and the rest of the >>Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) >>and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) >>Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/ >Kenny: >I’d be grateful if you would stop telling me "Jesus loves you." You >don’t know shit about me. I could be a Jew, a Muslim, a Budhist, a Zen >Taoist, a Sorastrian. In each and every case your presumptuous blessing >would be offensive. >As it happens, I’m a Calvinist and that makes your impertinent >"blessing" ten times more offensive than if I were a pagan. My place in >heaven is reserved by birth and resolute action in life, without any >help from you, thank you. More, I have this horrid nightmare that I >turn up before the pearly gates and Peter says, "You let that sick fuck >Ken Wilson speak on our behalf? You had it made in life and the >afterlife, you risked everything for the poor and downtrodden, and >*then* you let that sick fuck Wilson speak for us!" Clunk goes the >trapdoor. Down the chute into the hot place goes I. Go be limp >somewhere else, Kenny; don’t wish on me what will surely befall you for >all the damage you do to rationality. >You see, by any rationality, and particularly by the rationality of >Jesus himself as reported in the Gospels, you, Ken Wilson, are no more >a Christian than an idiot like Soul can be a Muslim because he thinks >it fashionable. The "Christianity" you preach is the perversion of the >mob, a self-entitled mob, a smug mob, to be sure, but still just a mob. >Jesus preached that there was a private conscience even within Judaic >Law. He did not pronounce (as you daily presume to do) on morality; he >did not make normative statements on ethics. Instead he sent people >away to think for themselves. He was a radical; you are a limp >reactionary despite the leftwing slogans you mouth without meaning, >spewing hatred for the satisfaction of spewing hatred, covering your >evil with a thin veneer of "concern" for those less privileged; the >entire politically correct left is a reactionary fascist movement, very >destructive of those foundations of society that Jesus honored and >strenuously promoted. >So, if you don’t mind, I cringe with revulsion when someone like you >says to me "Jesus loves you". You have no right to speak for Jesus. >Please don’t. >Andre Jute >PS If you had taken the trouble actually to read the bible rather than >swallow some predigested myths without first examining them, you would >know that what you pretend is your Christianity has nothing to do with >Jesus Christ. You clearly haven’t the faintest idea of who Jesus was >and what he stood for, or what his memory stands for among those >blessed with the ability to think for themselves. > So go away and think for yourself and I’ll think for myself.  BTW, > Jesus loves you. > Ken Wilson

That’s the whole point of my polite request for you to fuck out of my face, Kenny, that you clearly can’t think for yourself, and that therefore your presumption to think for me is impertinent. Not to mention that your claim to make Jesus’s choices for him would be blasphemous even if you were a hundred times more intelligent than you are. Since you obviously haven’t taken the point from my polite request, I don’t want your good wishes because I think you are a malicious enemy of society, a tearer down, a sneerer and jeerer, counterproductive, just another useless runner in the mob of the undistinguished and indistinguisable, in short scum. I don’t tell you what you can say and believe. I don’t even ask you to believe what I do. I don’t want to stop you doing anything, anything at all: I don’t care where a useless little man like you sticks his dildo. In return I ask only that you don’t try to rub up against me. You see, I fear that the slime on you will rub off on me and pass your disease to me. Is that clear enough for you? Andre Jute Darwinian

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